And that clue is so subtle you don't even know you've given it. It may be that your final act has to be turning your files over to some other trusted member of the group and leaving. Officer B will then call him off and suggest that "just a little cooperation" on your part will help avert all that. Do not try to turn the tables on them. It wouldn't kill them, but everyone who saw a former activist lurching down the street on destroyed knees knew what he was. You're far less susceptible to manipulation once you understand how the manipulation works. They'll poke, prod, and push every button they can to try to get you to respond. This is. Wow, so much in common, you two could be pals. Think of East Germany under the STASI or the old Soviet Union. If you know, or even have good reason to suspect that someone is a cop or any sort of government agent, DO NOT TALK TO THEM. When rats play, they make sounds similar to laughter. (The smart people stayed home.) 8 min read. And secondly (and maybe more importantly), if you continue to deny, dispute, deny for the first 1, 2, 3, or 4 hours of the interrogation, then confess to something in hour 5, a good lawyer will demonstrate coercive interrogation tactics were used and hopefully have your confession thrown out. The "nicest" cop is still not your friend. If you cannot honestly declare your innocence, then just say, "I want a lawyer.". The notes should be written in a clear and concise way. A "Rat" is a turncoat. Once you have been broken down and are ready to admit to anything (search on "Central Park Jogger case" for false confessions) LEO will attempt to get you to tell your story to his associates or write down and sign your story. Good cop will appear to be sincerely caring about your predicament. The military calls this OpSec Operational Security. So beware: Another way snitches can be dangerous is to physically hurt you if you get in their way. ), They may make it easy to commit crimes by not only pushing the idea, but actually supplying the funding, the equipment, the transportation, and the planning for the crime. They don't even have to threaten them, pay them, hire them, train them, or gain any leverage over them. LE has studied the meaning of every move, every movement, every facial expression, every question, every answer. Or perhaps not so briefly; torture may be involved first.". Circumstantial is the impressions and anything odd about the situation. I've smoked my share of The Devil's Lettuce but sometimes potheads just ain't too bright. There are two people I am allowed to credit: cover designer Keith Perkins and illustrator Travis Halverson, whose "no rattin'" drawing you'll find at the end of the book. Hopefully you've listened to the advice earlier in this booklet. Is there a danger in such a wait-and-see approach? By the time you learn one of your former friends is a "stoolie," it's too late. I would not consider this 'do not try to outsmart' described above (which I agree with)." Rat Facts Signs of a rat's presence are droppings, gnawing marks, tracks, runways, and burrows. He was always willing to do everything he was asked to help do (petition, run Nolan chart tables, etc.). Period. These examples are for historical, educational purposes only. His wife went to the same school as you, different years. While this person isn't necessarily a professional agent provocateur, he may nevertheless try to talk friends into committing crimes so he can get more credibility or rewards from his police handlers. Never leave a copy of a document or list behind (unless you want it found) and take a minute to duplicate an irreplaceable document and keep the duplicate in a safe place. All throughout, LE will do everything they can to keep you from denying your "guilt." Just say, "I didn't do it," "I'm innocent," "That's false." As they feel the need to conform, they will do whatever their peers do. You should resist the temptation to babble nervously (very difficult for some of us). "Look, just help me get this money out of the country; it's no big deal." Checks for electronic surveillance are only effective for the time they are being done, and are only effective as they are being done if you are sure of the person(s) doing the sweep. Good cop wants to see your tears; he knows he has you when you cry. Obviously, this isn't true of everybody who gets busted or otherwise becomes the target of a snitch. However, if you're very sure a person is a rat and you want to take further steps to render the snitch ineffective or miserable, here are some milder, but potentially effective, tactics. It is a method of interview and interrogation (read: psychological manipulation) specifically designed to produce confessions. By comparison, the common house rat is about 20 inches (50 cm) long and weighs approximately 12 ounces (0.34 kg). Unprepared for bad things happening to them, Loudmouthed or prone to blat information without thinking, Prone to believe that "nice" cops really do want to "help" them (yes, it's another form of being overly naive and trusting, but it bears repeating because if you get caught because you trusted a rat you're more likely to turn around and trust that rat's handlers), Very good at rationalizing their own less-than-stellar behavior. Continue Reading Dixon Diaz We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. Army Technical Manual "Interrogation Procedures." Or as our helpful attorney says (with a nod to Captain Mal Reynolds of Firefly), "Prepare to be surprised very briefly. The five famous snitches show that. Unfortunately, it's quite possible you'll never be able to repair the damage done by a snitch. Let's assume that you suspect but aren't sure that someone in your circle is a snitch. "I don't think I was at," "I don't recall seeing," and "I may have met" are all appropriate qualifiers to prevent telling an outright lie. If you haven't asked for a lawyer and haven't been denying, the interrogation moves on to the next steps. Some may even be associates in the snitch's plan to bust you (it's not unusual for government agencies to plant multiple agents into one operation and the bitter old joke that, if not for the snitches, some meetings would be empty, isn't that far wrong). Again, we are very, very squeamish about the idea of turning any non-violent, non-thieving person into to any law-enforcement agency. Remember, you can decide to remain silent or ask for a lawyer at any time during your questioning or interrogation. They'll try to blame someone else and suggest that maybe you weren't involved but just got caught up in things. If you make a mistake draw one line through the word and write your initials next to it. Appendix 1: The Reid Interrogation TechniqueTM When you first interview an attorney, you don't have to lay out in detail what you're up to perhaps just say that you're a free-speech advocate or a drug legalization advocate (or whatever the general truth is) and that you have been advised to have a good criminal defense attorney on tap because these days even innocent people are at peril from snitches and sloppy justice. Paramilitary police descended on the Hogshires' apartment. This explains, in graphic detail, with examples, about how police will twist your words and/or lie about you if you say anything at all to them. On the other hand, appearances can be deceiving. Years later, archives all over the Internet still tell the story; you can easily find a copy of Black's snitch letter. These days, law enforcement at all levels -- from the local cop shop to obscure federal agencies -- uses snitches to trap ordinary people. This strategy is, however, a serious two edged sword - as those methods are ones that may be used by agents provocateurs in attempting to damage a group by further destroying trust. A rat is a f*cking . But it's your responsibility and you'll have to do it if you ever expect to be taken seriously again. What if your lawyer advises you to snitch? ago. ("I know you don't usually deal, but couldn't you just sell me a little from your stash?" They'll tell you how it will ruin your parents' reputation. Un canal de Humor y Entretenimiento. They'll try to make it somehow socially acceptable, suggesting it was a crime of passion rather than a premeditated event. Photograph the person(s) following you or have a friend do so. Then there's the type of snitch the British call a grass and old American gangsters might have called a stool pigeon. About a year later he was spotted in the NY Times holding on to someone arrested by the FBI for something. Do NOT talk to cops. It can teach you the importance of good security practices. Title Page Dangerous myths about snitches and undercover agents These quotes about snitches and rats highlight some of the most difficult situations we are faced with. He . You know the kinds of things you've been doing. Relationships between friends and associates complicate matters, too. These aren't the only types of snitches. If prosecutors can find any inkling of a defendant's disposition to the crime, went Rehnquist's logic, then the person is guilty, no matter how outrageous or abusive the government agents' behavior. asks one brother. It was a poorly planned heist and two of the robbers were caught on camera. I would never rat out my friend." But there are NO guarantees. He's "only" going to give sworn affidavits and courtroom testimony against you, justifying it as a means of saving his own skin. Contents Sometimes they get everything they need from some anonymous person who makes false accusations via a tips hotline. Do not try to explain yourself (also very difficult for some of us). Petrille's cooperation gives the FBI plenty of meat to enable them to go after Lupertazzi underboss Johnny Sack. Or that may not happen. So just remember: Cops and other government agents are the most evil liars in the world because they have power to hurt you, they'll use it ruthlessly, and they know they can get away with almost anything. If LEO asks if you know the time, remember that that's a yes or no question. (To guard against the possibility of any snitch sympathizer planting misleading information, outlaws, former snitch victims, and lawyers checked the text after more "official" folk had their say. Personally I believe Snitch and Rat have different meaning even tho they are one in the same. Please read the article on the Reid interrogation techniqueTM that appears toward the end of this booklet. But both snitches and their easiest "marks" are frequently: If you refuse to snitch or otherwise cooperate with government, the prosecutor may pin more charges on you and may pursue them with more determination. On the other hand, you may not alter or add to the text in any way. 5. If you already have an attorney you like and trust, but who doesn't do criminal law, you can ask who he or she would recommend. That's entrapment. Coming from a job interview I was dressed casually, but rather nicely; slacks, button down shirt, decent shoes. We used to call them bimpees where I grew up." Anyone in your group starts agitating for violent action. Use professional language and be prepared to substantiate what you record. Steve explains: "Three of us who fairly trusted each other wondered how bad we were compromised and decided to try a test. Ever. Hollywood/Venice All we can say is, if you want to go that way, make damned sure the rat has actually reformed first and can prove it through actions, not mere words. While a number of blogs have reported that it's false news and both rappers have seemingly denied the allegation as well, papers have been leaked that indicate otherwise. Here are seven things you may not have known about Hill. The cop is so sad, he just had to put down his 16-year-old catdogfish yesterday. Consider going public with your situation. But, again, to be blunt - DO NOT DO ANY OF THIS! Since, as one wag observed, the first snitch arose shortly after the first secret, history offers us lots and lots of examples of how groups have handled the betrayers in their midst. Government agents just round up some snitches, get them to lie or arm-twist them into spying and voila! (Note: This item also appears in Appendix 2, where you will find details on how to do this, along with many other commonsense OpSec tips. Being a rat doesn't diminish their ability to fight, it just changed their tactics and focus temporarily.". 2- Sleek Swimmers 3- Tail Tales 4- One-fourth a Look a Like 5- Winter Soldiers 6- No stopping the teeth 7- Smart Eater 8- Deep Sleepers 9- American Mouse 10- Disease Distributors If you are reasonably cautious in your real-world dealings and if you have prepared yourself NOT TO TALK TO GOVERNMENT AGENTS, the chances are good that nobody will successfully arm-twist or sweet-talk you into becoming a snitch. Appendix 4: Other helpful resources. Prior to talking to you, the LE tries to learn everything there is to know about the event leading to your arrest. They slept in the same crib. Know the laws, potential sentences, and likely prosecutorial practices against any crimes you're committing. The years go by, and the brothers find themselves as old men, sitting on a park bench, sharing a bottle of vodka. Although a jury will occasionally decide that some act of entrapment is so outlandish they'll refuse to convict (do an Internet search on "FCPA Africa Sting" for a great example), victims of entrapment have ended up serving decades in prison for going along with plots cooked up entirely by government agents. Each and every contributor was a volunteer. He'll lay out a bunch of different scenarios that minimize your guilt, all the while looking for the clue you give him that he's hit on a winning theme to follow. This person may be hoping the cops will pay with money, drugs, or ongoing criminal immunity for her dubious "services." A person joins your group and starts stirring up trouble and creating divisions. Of course, if he turns out. OMFG, cops and all kinds of other government agents lie and they lie and they lie. Rat noun (informal) A term indiscriminately applied to numerous members of several rodent families (e.g. In Michigan, meanwhile, Allen's information "helped authorities indict 20 people in the drug trade and resulted in the conviction and sentencing of four major drug . These are not the only ways snitches get you in trouble. This is where a new LEO might come in. They often play upon a normal human desire to want to DO something - which is likely why, if you're a political person, you're a member of the group in the first place. Even if you don't think you're admitting anything incriminating, you're opening yourself up to every jailbird who might want to trade information, even false information about you, to the cops. Even an innocent and harmless misstatement can be twisted into a prison sentence for you (search on "Martha Stewart prison" for an example). But they're in the minority. They'll tell you your kids are going to be taken away and raised by the state. That is one big reason you should heed the earlier advice and NOT TALK TO POLICE AT ALL. But we're going to keep this simple. SpotemGottem is being accused of snitching on fellow rapper Y&R Mookey. A group of rats is called a 'mischief'! Have a pic of you and your mom? Then he didn't have the special paper required to print money. Some will protect you against snitches. Do her statements about her education or her friends hold up? If you're lucky and the activities of your snitch are particularly egregious, you might even get sympathy, donations, or renewed positive attention once good people realize what evil that person and her handlers tried to do to you. One female Norway rat may give birth to up to 20 young in a year. The author is MJR, who works in security. It's true that stereotypes become so by generally being true, but it's doubtful that any one individual would embrace them all. Got a blog, a Twitter account, a Facebook page? Also, remember that the Internet is the greatest snitch out there. This is another reason you want to have consulted with the attorney BEFORE you need one. This video, mentioned again in the appendices, is possibly the best and most useful 49 minutes you will spend on this topic without paying an attorney first. They detail how they Flex Your Rights This organization has online videos, DVDs, and tons of advice on how to handle yourself during police encounters. Second: If you can truthfully do so, DENY EVERYTHING. Start a 'Facts, Acts, and Circumstantial file.' Cops love these guys! Snitches damage individuals, organizations, and movements even before they actually rat on anybody. Snitches are famously unreliable: A 2004 study by the Northwestern University Law School's Center on Wrongful Convictions reveals that 46 percent of wrongful death penalty convictions are due to. Personally, I'm in favor of compartmentalizing information. Snitches and rats, snitches and rats Snitches and rats, they all get whacked (Pussy) He told on his brother (Pussy), his brother told back (Pussy) They say that they twins, we call them Siamese rats (On God) Snitches and rats (21), snitches and rats (21) We snatchin' your jewelry (On God) and takin' your pack (Lil bitch) Snitches and rats So the only contributors credited anywhere in the book are those who wrote items especially for this project or whose comments on my blog, Living Freedom I reprinted here. They may make hyper-strong appeals to your cause then use the leverage they gain to make equally strong appeals for committing crimes. What happens if you become a snitch and regret it? To keep things simple we're going to call them all snitches though we'll differentiate when we need to help you look out for specific problems. jet2 passenger locator form spain rat facts snitches. In a Playboy article, James Bovard wrote: "Up until the early Seventies, defendants often successfully challenged entrapment as a violation of due process. Snitches damage individuals, organizations, and movements even before they actually rat on anybody. If you snitch and get caught, at the very least be ready to humbly accept whatever those you betrayed dish out to you; you only make things worse by making excuses. Do not do either of those things. Expel the person from the group. Cops brag at parties about how fast they have gotten suspects to do it. PART THREE: WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU GET BUSTED? He used his first Wall Street million to buy a white Ferrari because Don Johnson had one. A friend suddenly starts pushing you to do or advise on illegal things. The LEO saw them last tour. Some of this knowledge can help us avoid being busted in the first place. Several sources are reporting that "Beatbox" rapper SpotemGottem ratted out Y&R Mookey to the feds. If so, have a plausible excuse if you can. Do your best to make sure your associates also follow good security practices. Pennsylvania. Today, LE is on your Facebook page learning everything they can about you while developing their interrogation strategy. And worse, you think the person is, or even might be, targeting you. And you may not reproduce or distribute any part of this work for commercial purposes, period. Shunning means shutting a person (and sometimes his family members) out of virtually all ordinary activity. It happens all too often these days. Snitch Culture: How Citizens are Turned into the Eyes and Ears of the State by Jim Redden, Snitch: Informants, Cooperators, and the Corruption of Justice by Ethan Brown, PART ONE: Recognizing and Avoiding Snitches, FIRST RULE: Learn and practice good security consciousness, Dangerous myths about snitches and undercover agents, What to do if you believe a snitch is personally targeting you, If you believe there's a snitch in your group, Beware of accusing someone who might not be a snitch. The advice in this booklet can lessen the chance of that, but nobody can give you any guarantees. Redeem Now Buffering Snitches & Rats (Interlude) 21 Savage 2 years ago Hip Hop 1.46M 15.4K 306 21 Savage Verified 1.46M 261 Follow Report But some people will distrust you; that's just reality. A snitch or a rat is an individual who goes against everyone else just to clear their own name and or they can't handle business themselves they call the police and hand over all evidence. Turn them in to the "legitimate" authorities. "), An older, "more experienced" person joins your group or circle and soon becomes a counselor of sorts to the youngest, most edgy, most insecure, most angry, or most naive members. First you should start with the date. 6ix9ine Snitching refers to a series of memes parodying rapper Daniel "6ix9ine" Hernandez exposing details on the Nine Trey Bloods gang, including his claims that rappers Jim Jones and Cardi B are gang members. The police might badger you until you'll agree to anything just to have some peace. ("Hey, we just run a little of this 'stuff' across the border and it'll make us a lot of money that we can use to do good. But I've interviewed/interrogated maybe 100 or more people and I've found, almost as a rule, that people have the hardest time keeping quiet. FIRST RULE: Learn and practice good security consciousness Then state in the strongest terms why you realized you would not and could not do it. We could write an encyclopedia defining them. A confidential informant ("CI") is someone that is typically facing criminal charges and law enforcement convinces the CI to "work off" their criminal charges. We sometimes face the evil choice of making a false accusation against an innocent person or keeping quiet about our suspicions and ending up with somebody (maybe even us) getting busted. They will try to talk over any claim of innocence so that denials are never clear on the recordings. Don't even talk about the weather around them. And so on. A group or movement you belong to may collapse or members may split off in anger and distrust. But only after you've been busted, scared out of your wits, deprived of your property, and perhaps driven into bankruptcy. Don't talk directly to government agents. Snitch commits the crime with you and tells on you . And if you get tossed into jail, DON'T TALK TO YOUR CELLMATES OR THE JAILERS, EITHER. What to do if you believe a snitch is personally targeting you As soon as you're out on bail, tell your associates what happened to you. What exactly is a snitch? Chances are, if you're a non-violent political activist or small-time dealer of "college type" drugs who got busted and turned, your friends will hate you but won't beat you up or kill you if they learn you snitched on them. Discuss with your most trusted associates what to do. The longer you continue and/or the more controversial your activities, the more likely you are to attract one or more rats. And there are really some people who would do that. Yet people still get entrapped by ignoring it: "You can always tell the FBI agent. Snitches prey on the naive and unsuspecting and on misplaced friendship. After the military, they started work next to each other in the same factory. "The people's mind-set was no more turning the other cheek," King said of the film's 1968 setting. This is an attempt to discredit your memory. But in 1973, the Supreme Court, in an opinion written by Chief Justice William Rehnquist, gutted most defenses against government entrapment by focusing almost solely on the 'subjective disposition' of the entrapped person. They giving motherfuckers up for a 305 contraband shot. Of course, keep in mind that the prosecutor is a lawyer, too, so it's not necessarily all to the good.". He'll tell you he's been watching and that to him, you don't seem to be the kind of person who could do something like what you're accused of. If you can do so without violating your state's law, quietly begin video or audiotaping all interactions with the suspected person. Some typical things snitches and/or agents provocateurs do: This ultra-basic piece of advice goes back at least to the agitators of the 1960s. Y'all need to listen to that sh*t though 'cause that sh*t is facts. But the simple fact is that anybody can break under the right kind of pressure and government agents are trained in sophisticated terror and manipulation tactics. There were so many iffy hangers-on that the tiny core of solid people weren't sure who was a cop or who just smelled like one, or who was a snitch and who might just be a misfit or an idiot. The Prisoner's Dilemma But the only fact is that they're misinformed and are dangerously misinforming you. Not only that, but encrypt all email you possibly can, not just email containing sensitive material. Plus, you are now subject to arrest for new charges, usually, Lying to LE or Obstruction, indictable crimes, and you've done so on tape.