The safety either keeps the trigger from being pulled or blocks the cartridge from being struck by the firing pin so it cant go off. That connected to the trigger, which only dropped out of the way when the trigger was fully pressed. Maybe I counted wrong? I had the same concerns when I first started to carry my Glock. Yeah, me too. Those who defend not carrying a round in the chamber preach about it's safety. What kind of a moron thought THAT was a good idea? so i compensate for that with situational awareness and trying not to put myself in situations or places where that will happen So yes, its completely safe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p28yT3Z3oj8&t=7347s Options are good. Dani: In the case of an inertial firing pin, nothing but a physical block on the firing pin itself will have the slightest effect. For all those terrified at Condition One semi-autos, a percentage carried hunting shotguns afield for upland game and waterfowl every one with the . I assume it had something to do with its mechanics. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. More bad advice, did the author not learn from his first mistake? Now that we know what it means to have one in the chamber, let's figure out whether it is safe to carry a "loaded gun" with you. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/the-truth-about-6-5mm-ammo/ Is A Glock Safe To Carry Chambered. Please note, comments must be approved before they are published. Confused fool. It has good stopping power and it only slightly has more recoil . A number of gun companies still produce single-action revolvers. My three-year-old knows that for her bb gun. To the point I know I can unholster, rack, and have my tritium dots centered on some perps forehead before they know whats coming. Um, Smith & Wesson doesnt use a transfer bar, they use a hammer block. https://patents.google.com/patent/US5724759A/en. As for the replicas, these are hit-and-miss when it comes to carrying on an empty chamber. (just like some people freakout about a cocked and locked 1911) Rest assured the gun will not go off and shoot you in the ass. No kids at home anymore so no worry there. Mine, of course, is in the latter, and it's held up well to a lot of shooting. P.T. Your taste is in your ass., Your brains (what little you have) are in your ass. Bet you still get stabbed. These arent exactly the most concealable guns out there. And it will ALWAYS stay in its holster right? Because there are a lot of areas where carrying a firearm will bite you if you cant get it right. But, IF I were, then Id have to choose that DA revolver in my headboard. The 43 chambered for the 9x19 cartridge, along with its immediate predecessor the .380 caliber Model 42, were not the . The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. If you try to have a healthy debate its always 100% of the time NOTHING but internet people telling other internet people that their particular opinion is wrong. -John Muir. A admit, these days are different a 3 grand safe, that folks have to go look up the damn combo to, or wake up with a shadow looking at them in a dark bedroom and try to get to a box hopefully in reach without getting halfway up out of bed. Few indeed even care about SA revolvers anymore, or even know they exist, or care about the firing mechanism. She had the edge, rock steady hands of a brain surgeon. For 1911s, the danger is similar if you carry hammer down on a loaded chamber though I dont know why any somewhat intelligent person would do so. So when do you get to be a klutz if youve taken the time to train those reactions until as the experts say you not only get it right, you cant get it wrong? Mr. Hoober, the only quibble I have with this article is the assumption that people only have a (as in singular) home defense gun. I made a folder called TTAG comments, and put all pages Ive commented on in there. Learn your own weapon and try not to drop it, the last thing you do might be a good catch. Since I do not carry(Los Angeles County), my handguns are ready very quickly. I'm not exactly a diehard with pistol-caliber carbines but I definitely enjoy them. Long story short, I let it be known that I thought carrying with an empty chamber is a mistake. Nor with his next, more significant error, suggesting that floating or inertial firing pin guns (like a 1911) ARE drop safe with a round in the chamber, even though all such firearms with a round in the chamber WILL fire if dropped on their muzzle? I will say this again: If other blogs can do it, then it can be done. Then you have the big, scary, single-action magnums by IWI (the BFR) Freedom Arms and custom guns from Jeff Linebaugh. The name's Jordan, but friends call me Jordy. I thought it was just the cops and regulars of the IDF. MOLON LABE. Does the Glock fire then? Just the same as the guy thumbing the safety off, he will beat me. Some say it makes the trigger drag, but it doesnt on mine. A loaded GLOCK, some of the comments went, is susceptible to the dreaded GLOCK ND (negligent discharge). A Glock is a reputable brand name of pistols, and the weight of the trigger pull can mean the difference in between a firearm firing and not shooting. But now I get 18! Because criminals dont follow laws, and as long as you stay off the radar, nobody is checking your gun. This is the inherit design of a sticker fired pistol. It's offered in a wide range of cartridges, from .22LR to the .357 Magnum. In my 3-screw, yes. Whatever stage you carry your weapon at be consistent. That doesnt mean you can ever fool around with one. Theyre both safe and useful within their own parameters, and people are free to choose the one they prefer. Maybe you just fumble finger the Glock when its out of the holster being put in a lockbox or on the counter at the range. The Series 80 was a solution in search of a problem ie, it was created by lawyers. Both have pros and cons the secret is you must be well versed to bringing your gun up to the level of lethal quickly. Stop buying Glocks. Between the trigger safety, the firing pin safety and the drop safety I feel very comfortable carrying it chambered. Beyond being "The Original" Glock, which won the company favor with the Austrians then the world, the Glock G17 is arguably the most popular Glock pistol model on the planet.. There are a lot of older pistols manufactured without a drop safety feature. And I do not carry them ever. Heres a news flash, ever since Adam and Eve ate the serpents apple were all fallible. Its an unnatural, metallic noise that spooked him instantly, and I missed the snap shot at a running target, and he was gone. Those stances, their great for cops and competition but IMO bot so great in a gunfight up close. Some of the biggest mistakes happen when training at sex. The Glock handgun is the favored pistol of law enforcement agencies worldwide. Gunfights can happen that fast. . Because they have no external safety, Glocks are quicker to draw and fire. Congratulations. you would do well to keep in mind that some people dont carry with a round in the chamber not because theyre so afraid or lack of training but because simply of where they live and the laws that exist there if they did they would be constantly administratively chambering and unchambering a round throughout their day while doing so in their vehicle In that case, the argument that any gun is better than no gun might be correct but thats as far as it goes. You do what you gotta do or are allowed to do. In a prima facie, on-paper, in-theory sense, thats true. Ask the famous Black Athlete Plaxico Burress that did that in a New York restaurant a number of years ago. There is at least one fully loaded firearm in every room of my house and my shop. Second, they also trained. I agree about the Colt SAA. Fuck off gov. I for one dont want to take the chance of fumbling around with a gun trying to rack the gun under pressure. Is really shouldnt be that hard. the first two rules of safe gun handling are Dont touch the trigger until you are ready to shoot, and dont point it at anything you dont want to destroy. In fact, when applying for a gun permit in Israel, self-defense is not an acceptable reason to get a gun. Thank you very much. Thats a bunch of bologna written by writers who know nothing about guns. (AgCatJHS at English Wikipedia [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons)Here we have a conundrum. All except for that one guy above who thinks muscle memory means hell never make a mistake, ever. Glocks are awesome little handguns. Carrying On An Empty Chamber. When I was a lot younger, I was riding horses with some friends. I got them after watching the best experts I know of, champions, and their green light review. . So were really talking only about safe carry and capacity, as the first shot fired will be from the NEXT chamber. Im a mommy-frelling ballerina with a pickem up truck towing. So in 2019, are you telling a revolver carrier to carry only 4 bullets instead of five?? But Knute is fine, and nobody else seems to want it. So whats up? She now after many painful operations will be a partial cripple for the rest of her life. Kids are grown, hoping dad doesnt ever need to move in, not the reverse lol, and I have em where I need em to be and they are ready when I am. As one gun writer said years ago, its amazing someone was not smart enough to hire a good gun savvy lawyer and sue Glock out of existence with all the accidents this pistol has caused. In fact, it uses S&W Shield Plus magazines. Odds of the shooter getting 4 shots off would be pretty low. I am thinking G2S, my ankle sometimes gets chilly, but, Im happy with my PA-63 In 918, and I have a CZ, in 918, that has the best SA trigger Ive ever felt, since the Smith S.S. Model 66, .357 which was accurized, and tweaked by a smith, that was flat out dangerous, hair wasnt the word. to all you sanctimonious what iffers and self styled know it alls out there: I could give you many other identical examples of Glocks going off while the owner wore them or handled them. As a top performer in reliability and safety tests, it quickly entered into the Austrian military and police service. Ive done this quite a bit when rabbit hunting. the number of people out there who keep a single-action revolver as a home defense. If you are so uncomfortable with a Glock as a fully loaded and chambered self defense gun, why do you own one? Two motions will always be quicker than four, unless one can somehow arrange to do all four simultaneously. Many competition shooters boast about having it done to their race gun. One of the interesting things about that is I can (after clearing) dry fire repeatedly and get a rough visual about how much the aim point moves depending on my grip and finger position. gun owner would not have a clue on how the gun actually worked or how dangerous it was to handle and carry because what a Moron cannot see a Moron does not fear. Guess what? Do it right; prepare the firearm for immediate use and take the neccessary precautions given that state of readiness. The hammer snagged on a branch, and he shot his horse (he was twisted by the tree). He grew up hunting, fishing, and trapping. Im a lefty and the controls on the P 89 are completely ambitious I love SA/DA hammer fired autos. Time waits for no man, and neither do bad guys. If my gun lands at my childs feet, an empty chamber leaves plenty of time to prevent a tragedy, but a chambered striker-fired gun may not. They have defense of the State, of their comrades, or of other citizens.. they took it so far, they had Glock make a special model Glock for them with a slightly stouter trigger spring. So, us non-glockentines keep a low pro on discussing polymers and plastics, but if I had to go to war tomorrow, you can it would be an all steel weapon. I'd recommend a Hard Kydex holster like a comp-tac infidel. If carry my Glock its in a solid Crossbreed holster with one in the chamber. Did dad work for a local Florida PD not to be named? Nearly anything can be used as a weapon, whether it is designed as a weapon or not. By all means, carry what you are competent to handle effectively and safely. More solid irrefutable proof that the Glock is an accident waiting to happen. Empty chamber carry is dumb. Its an unsafe design from 2 aspects, the fact that it acts much like a single action weapon with the hammer cocked back and no manual safety and it has a totally unsafe asinine take down system. If waking up to a noise or shadow, I want the piece in my hand as simply and easily as possible, meaning it lays in the headboard. In order to fire, the pin needs to be hit hard enough to continue forward, past the point of contact with the hammer, and then into the primer. So I traded it. That was back in the 1970s somewhere. A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. I may not have the time to chamber a round if a BG is close enough. Glock is a brand of polymer-framed, short recoil-operated, locked-breech semi-automatic pistols designed and produced by Austrian manufacturer Glock Ges.m.b.H.. Now, to rein in this trip into the weeds.