Do you think that they would have been able to successfully cope with these circumstances following the earlier problems? I don't want to waste the time of past professors and employers if it doesn't matter. However, they also discovered that the member received some depression counseling about 2 years before her MEPS visit, which she conveniently omitted. I got disqualified for disclosing a medical issue. Second, you state that the ORs are pushing you to lie. It could just be too early that they do not want to be responsible if there is a tear due to your eyes are still healing. And yet when the recruiter tells them to lie so he doesn't have to do paperwork they always believe him that no one will find out. I went through Air Force BMT in the lste 70's . Know all the risks and procedure limitations. Stupid kids want the power, the prestige, the money, the sweet benefitsthe military has a lot to offer. 21 years active duty,kept my mouth shut about stuff that just did not need to be amplified. MEPS stands for Military Entrance Processing Station. They don't pull up your records unless you need a clearance or unless it comes up. The military is used to this, and they really don't care down the road. Penalties for False Enlistment As stated on the Army enlistment contract you sign, lying at MEPS regarding medical or mental health history is a terrible idea with serious implications. Maybe from 2001-2007 or so she could. (yes pretty much threw him and his boss underneath the bus). It will regenerate itself in about three to five days. Bit of stretch that anybody would have any insight on this subject, but the only thing stopping me from getting accepted for MEPS is my LASIK documentation. Our advice is consistently not to lie at MEPS. They don't understand how a broken leg or asthma when they were a kid can come back, they don't understand how mental issues are severely exacerbated under stress-- because they think their phone breaking is stress, and they dealt with that just fine. Because the military does not. We all come to this website for information and most of us have been corrected on our approach by the main contributors in some fashion. For both, it's to ensure that only qualified candidates enlist. They don't understand this stuff. Has "just asking for a friend" EVER worked, even if true? His family supported the cousin and were part an intensive family counseling program for suicide prevention, however this had a strong impact on our young man. Lied at meps now need TS clearance - ClearanceJobs Blog If you are 100% sure that both are non-issues and you can perform without them holding you back, then just don't mention it. When I went to MEPs, like most people, I had something to lie about. You're assuming her recruiter didn't know With the rise of electronic medical records it'll become extremely hard to lie for meps. The suicide counselor for the cousin recognized that our young man was confused and worried from his family's recent crisis. Tough but that is what it is when they find out. This comment has been overwritten by this open source script to protect this user's privacy. I'm guessing you're done. So do you think the cost is worth the benefit? May 14, 2016 Just a note, if you decide to lie about it, you need to be sure that you won't let it slip sometime later. When you're an officer and in a time-sensitive situation where lives are on the line, do you really think you have time to triple check? If it won't come up again or if you don't need a TS-SCI, you can get away with not telling. You probably dont even have ADHD because they hand out those diagnoses to kids like Candy. See Article 83 UCMJ. Last I knew, which granted was probably close to a decade ago, it was strictly forbiddenonly PRK was allowed. PERIOD. Also it is about what job that you are going to do as a Officer. We lost quite a few, we were down to just a few of us by graduation. Unless someone wants to send the mods proof of their M.D., and dig into medical history, you have no business declaring whether or not anyone's medical condition is non-serious, important, real, or anything else. No. And you'll be sidelined forever. Second, I got a ganglion cyst removed last summer. Accidentally or on purpose are applicable. Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Not disclosing information at MEPS - Advice Needed. What should I do. No personally identifying information (PII). Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. So I left his office and my recruiter took me to up to the hotel. Its in your best interest to get through MEPS. I'm certain they won't be. There's been zero issues from the surgery and was absolutely necessary as I couldn't do more than 10 pushups without the wrist being in terrible pain. Because he felt that his condition was very mild, and that it was part of his cousin's support program, he did not disclose this to his Recruiter, nor MEPS. I even believed that my OR would appreciate my persistence in trying to get more info while he is on leave this week. So they just left that section blank and filled in the most recent appointment, making it look as if i never went in at all until just the other day. Once you have gone through initial questioning phases with your recruiter and have discussed your options, your recruiter will set an. Generally speaking, no. Thank you for the quick replies. Put me in the disqualified for medical category. I genuinely had not considered that the way I'm acting could be considered morally suspect, or aggravating to the recruiter. Sometimes Its in medical professionals best interests to lie. Or just give up and wait for a couple of years? Thanks! My 90 day period was more like 2 months, because that's when they called me back for a followup, so it wouldn't have made sense (distance traveled and financially) to go back a month later for a '90 day' followup. He runs like 6 miles a day on it perfectly capable. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. Your Recruiter will not be the one getting in troubleit will be you. A young man decided to join the Air Force and contacted a Recruiter. Always good advice. Option 1: Being truthful and working a waiver that is doable. Privacy Policy. Hello, thank you everyone for this forum, it has been incredibly helpful. They asked him if hadn't told them EVERYTHING and this was his last chance. If it had been correctly disclosed, he likely would have required a waiver and additional counseling before joining the Air Force. Should I be honest with my recruiter and try to get a waiver? He stopped seeing the counselor after only 6 months from beginning counseling and successfully continued his college education. You will never become a United States Marine. For some reason the Pacific breeze didnt reach that area. 73. Press J to jump to the feed. I think the chief issue is your pattern of distrust..and confidence in superiors. If you do tell the truth about the surgery and wait 6 months for the lasik, you will probably still be able to get a contract, but you will have to go through a bunch of unnecessary shit. My dad said hell no, lost 60lbs and 6 years later has had zero knee pain. Just get off the meds asap, and keep your shit together for however long your recruiter says you need to. He said that there is a good chance that I could lose my op 40. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. It happened to be depression and medication for it. They might nowWhy would you pose a question on a public website. Meps to Meps transfer of record/file, how long does it take? When I went to meps, I went into a room with a doctor, he made me strip down to my underwear and told me to slowly spin in a circle twice, so they will most likely notice any major scars. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. KUDOS! He hadn't been "prescribed" an anti-depressant because he only took some medicine on a short, trial basis. They do that at the School of Infantry. You are using an out of date browser. Retired in '02 as a Senior Chief(E-8 for you landlubbers). TL; DR Anyone with experience of LASIK eye surgery documentation sent to MEPS. I was completely honest and I served honorably for 8 years. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. However, you do sign a paper that allows the navy to look through your medical history if something bad happens during training. uuugh, it was hot. Personally, go find another doctor that is ex-military that can weed through the BS. : r/USMCboot. Or should I be honest with my recruiter and if I cant get a waiver, lie at MEPS. If you are denied entry to the military, it is very possibly the best thing for both you and the government. Haven't met a personw ho didn't lie. I don't suggest lying, but literally almost everyone I know of has lied about something. Stuck waiting for MEPS to process my info from Military to Military as well as MEPS to MEPS. You should have had a post-op visit to measure refractions at 90 days post-op and then another 30 days after that visit.https://www.public.navy.mil/netc/centers/ceneoddive/ndstc/documents/manmed_chap15.pdf. You might think to yourself, "How could he not know that he needed to disclose this information?" As a reminder, this subreddit is for civil discussion. So what should I do: should I call him and polk the bear? I plan on waiting the 6 months. It was not a mistake for being honest at MEPS, it was a mistake for being dishonest on the paperwork. I've done the 1 month check and will do the 6, 3 months is coming up so I'll have to get that on the books. We can't definitively know the answer to these hypotheticals, but we do know that the military would have never prepared them for it because they never were evaluated. MEPS threaten to put these kids in fucking prison if they lie, and they lie anyway. I have enough money saved to get the surgery, and I'm willing to wait the 180 days, but I don't know how available that waiver is, and my OR doesn't recommend doing anything that will create more hurdles for me to get past at MEPS, stating each hurdle decreases my chances of becoming an officer. My recruiter sent a 10 page report from the doctor along with the 'Refractive Eye Surgery Checklist' paper my recruiter gave me. The wrist has handled push ups every other day since I was cleared to get back to it and my eyes are perfect, but I'll know for sure at 6 months. they'll find out if you need a Top Secret security clearance or if the issue comes up. Most major airlines are in negotiations at this time, and many are contentious. I was still in high school, wrecked my car and tore up my hand a few weeks later, was medically discharged :/. !, Military Life and Issues, 8 replies Lying scumbag Johnson on MSNBC lying-no challenge from host, Elections, 31 replies (January 6, 2021, subversive for attending the rally - not me, but a friend). For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I got LASIK a few months ago, I know the minimum time from surgery to MEPs has to be at least 6 months. Also, while you wait for a reply from a subject matter expert, try using the search feature! It may not display this or other websites correctly. Long story short, I broke my nose in December and had surgery to fix the break and take care of some sinus problems. I think that I am going to just forget that it ever happened. After seeing the counselor for about 3 months, he was diagnosed with Dysthymia and Social Anxiety Disorder (SAD). I haven't seriously considered joining a branch since my accident in 2003, but it still crosses my mind from time to time. I got both of these surgeries in order to be a seal, and would fucking hate if the reason I can't get in are the very surgeries I got in order to qualify for training. Do not encourage lying. Im in the same boat, the waiver is an easy one as long as you have a doctors note saying youre fine to be off medication, and being successful for 1-3 years off the medication. You may need further evaluation or counseling before you can live a rigorous military lifestyle. Should I start applying scar reducing cream to make it less noticeable? Maybe mental health evaluations should be more thorough, the guys with physical problems that the Army didn't know about got found out because they were being physically pushed but the mental nutjobsthey didn't get found out til they got to their unit. She got counseling for the suicide gesture and related stress, which eventually resolved, and she again received more counseling for anger management a few years later (this was what the BMT medics discovered). They'll simply deny him enlistment and move-on. Same with another section. On the way to Meps we got a call from the Chief who asked us if we had ever been asked to lie, had criminal charges etc. Free online program to promote the safety and well-being of military families. and our From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. This includes lying by omission (leaving information out) and lying by commission (purposefully misleading). This disorder was triggered in BMT from a previously undisclosed mental condition. Your insistence on snapping back or being defensive only adds evidence to a immaturity that will not serve the military. Option 2: Lie. The rules here have not changed, but the enforcement will now result in a 30 day ban from APC for violations. Below are abstractions of a true stories. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. In bootcamp a kid had asthma and almost passed out going through the chicken road and he got kicked out for lying about his asthma, so I would be honest. Downside, you might take a bit longer to get the green light to process and might also have to get documentation from your doctor that you don't need your meds anymore. That's what the exam is for, to make sure you're fit for duty. The criminal background check and security clearance investigations can and do find sealed records. I think the individual is still at the MEPS stage of enlistment, and if I have understood him correctly, he is awaiting a medical waiver of sorts. Went to MEPS the next morning and everything was normal until medical debriefing. I was planning on saying the wrist scar was from jumping over the fence as a kid or something like that. A magnifying glass. Anything that deals with flying can cause problems with some that have had Lasik. It's sometimes better to keep your trap shut and deal with possible consequences later. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tool+bag&defid=1959463. First, you are the one liable WHEN you get busted lying. Unfortunately, she needed to go to sick call several times for persistent coughing. If you can not look at yourself in the mirror in the morning it was the wrong decision. It seems like the most important mission of the army right now its safety and risk management, and with that in mind, it doesn't seem even remotely worth the risk. However, herein lies the problem. Wait 1-3 years off the medication. During the MEPS process, recruits may be tempted to lie about past events. That sent me down a long road of having to get a waiver for something that had no current medical basis and was utter medical fraud. Discomfort after surgery is minimal, and vision recovery usually takes place in 1 to 2 days. One guy kept getting ahold of his prrsonal items somehow and got caught playing a saxophone in the barracks. My recruiter went the other direction, really stressed "Make sure you disclose EVERYTHING". I was honest at MEPS. View Profile View Forum Posts View Blog Entries View Articles View Gallery Uploads Marine Friend . Instead, she had abysmal chances for waiver approval because she never got the additional examination needed for a waiver (plus lying isn't helpful to a case), so she was separated despite the recommendation of her MTI. They need to have a psychologist evaluate everyone at meps. Glad to hear eye stuff is routine. Station commander looked at my medical paperwork and said word-for-word: " You stick to the script. Know how to find the right doctor. The cousin survived, and revealed she was deep in a gambling debt. 1) I have been told by my Officer Recruiter that I do NOT need any Letters of Recommendation for a package. Never saw him again. Some background, I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was younger and thus have ADHD and have a prescription for but find that I dont really need it for things other than standardized tests which is not really al that ADHD related Im just a bad test taker. I didn't mention it at the physical, everything when fine. Downside, potentially get caught, hit with fraudulent enlistment, permanently disqualified. Dont lie. One of the worst things in the world is getting a fraudulent enlistment discharge after making it through 2 months of boot. I swear I've met more dudes getting chaptered in the infantry for mental problems (like a few guys are mentally insane) than I ever imagined. A young woman wanted to join the Air Force and went to MEPS. If I were you I would lie and say it's from a camping trip or something. The girl with the suicide attempt would not be allowed to enlist today though. #12. So we met a few days later and met his shadow that will be taking his place and filled out all the medical paperwork. If I go back to my doctor and ask them to fill it out with the actual dates (even though its not exactly on the mark of '90 days'), will it be a waste of time to send back to MEPS, maybe with a statement attached? Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. Want to learn about deploying, finances, mental health, cross-rating, and more? AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. Pretend now that either of these people had completed BMT without their prior Mental Health history ever evaluated. Now the most commonly performed eye laser surgery, LASIK involves creating a partial-thickness corneal flap and using an excimer laser to ablate the bed of the cornea. Then to delete your comments, simply click on your username on Reddit, go to the comments tab, scroll down as far as possible (hint: use RES), and hit the new OVERWRITE button at the top. Any advice? She wanted to get out so bad she went full retard, doing something dishonorable to get thrown out on a general discharge. All Rights Reserved. In the end, I did everything I could to prove I was completely fine. I got disqualified to join the Air Force/military and I wanted to let you all know what was going on and how I was disqualified by MEPS.. Does MEPS pull your military medical records. One of those better to ask for forgiveness than permission situations it seems. Press J to jump to the feed. If people can lie about weed I dont see any moral dilemma about you lying about ADHD. Unless you know it's a legitimate issue that impairs your physical and/or mental ability to carry out your duties, don't say a thing. Though would documentation from a psychologist count as documentation from a doctor bc I dont know how familiar doctor at a hospital would be with something related to a different field of medicine. Handle this the right way, as you should all things. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I had lasik about 6 months ago and the recruiter originally told me that all I would need is a letter filled out by the doctor. For every one of these little vignettes there is an outstanding Soldier, Sailor, Airperson or Marine that said "No" when asked, and is out there doing outstanding shit. How do you think they would perform in a deployment, or at a remote assignment like Turkey or Greenland, or if they married and their future spouse later divorced them? The recruiter will come up with the necessary "details" of what happened and will move on to the next recruit. Now an MTI's recommendations are definitely considered, but they are really just a tiebreaker if the waiver authority is 50/50 on a case, and MTI's certainly do recommend separation sometimes. or "Do you have a history of depression? It is against the APC Forum Rules to advocate any labor action which is not authorized by the RLA/NMB. I have changed a few details to maintain anonymity, however the basics of the stories are very real and did happen. I swear I was born in the wrong generation. With his counselor, they decided he should try medication (Sertraline/Zoloft) for control of his symptoms. Fraudulent Entry can get you kicked out of the military. This is for prior service and new applicants. So if you do lie and something goes wrong at buds, they do have the right to dig through your medical history and they will probably find out about the surgery and lasik. So a few days later I went to MEPS but before we went we had to fill more paperwork out. MEPS consult will do the corneal mapping, so no, we don't just guess at the diagnosis. Alright, you've got me interested. The doctor who found it said it not a big deal and they will let me in . Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Currently trying to fill out a packet for OCS, but my recruiter informed me that meps declined my medical history. Make it impossible to lie? ), Arborry Hill Road Company, LLC Copyright 2006-2023, Service Academy Forums is a registered trademark of Arborry Hill Road Company, LLC. So ur saying stay off the pills for 90 days and I doesnt come up?how? Sounds about like what I figured. Doctors said I had asthma growing up, my recruiter said don't mention it, he was probably jumping to conclusions. What is the worst that can happen? Telling them what I told the recruiter and what he told me. Lying will. MEPS, short for Military Entrance Processing, rolled out a new system yesterday called MHS Genesis. Forgetting the medical side of this for a moment You must log in or register to reply here. You must log in or register to reply here. If you are denied entry to the military, it is very possibly the best thing for both you and the government. And more people are going to lie now that everyone is getting diagnosed with ADHD because they're not interested in school (and ADHD is a disqualifier). I lied at meps . After a few weeks, he began to complain of chest tightness, shortness of breath, and tunnel vision, which are classic signs of Exercise Induced Asthma (EIA), a potentially disqualifying condition. Nice guy and not pushy. Then I met his boss; Sub-station commander. I played my "sax" a lot in basic. Lying at MEPS, HIPAA and security clearances. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Messages. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. The suicide counselor recommended he also consider seeing his own counselor. I think the lesson here is not to tell people to disclose everything, becausethey won't. I know a guy who lied about lasik because he didn't want to wait 6 months and nobody at meps found out. If they don't find anything during their examinations, you should be good to go. Am I in danger like my friend said? 27. Anyone with any experience or advice? The largest military subreddit on reddit. I also had to have my opthalmologist fill out a form called MEPS Refractive Eye Surgery worksheet.Look at MANMED regarding LASIK. The forms tell you that you must disclose it. Please don't sabotage your own union's efforts on your behalf. This is a process a person goes through after they have gone through the medical screening to join the army. She passed all the exams and was cleared, then went to BMT and performed well. What Is The Biggest Lie You Ever Heard, Told Or Someone Told You? from USMCboot. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. That's just the way it happens. For candidates lurking here, seeing how the post might apply to their own application, whether for SA or ROTC or OCS: If you have to ask should I Iie, then you already know the answer. Idk if the policy is 1 or 3 years, Ive encountered both. He also said that as long as I take care of it before I leave, I'll be fine. Know preoperative, operative, and postoperative . Recruits who pass their physical and have no prior history may be accepted because the military does not routinely pull medical information. MEPS' job is the same as the recruiter's job. When we started to fill out similar questions with the recruiter I started saying 'yes' on some of the questions. ; and he asked my friend if he had ever smoked pot. Lying will. Did I Lie at MEPS??! So what are the lessons from these stories? For information regarding Navy enlisted ratings, see [Twisky's Rating Information Guide] (https://www.reddit.com/r/newtothenavy/comments/6mxv7c/links_to_official_information_on_every_enlisted/). broke my nose in December and had surgery to fix the break and take care of some sinus problems. Keratinous is NOT trifling; it is the major cause for corneal transplant in the US-a very expensive medical issue. Come visit our wiki over in r/Navy. Not sure why I didnt expect this or was told this. After about 2 months on the medication, he discovered that the side-effects of the medicine were worse than his symptoms and stopped taking it. If you would like to protect yourself, add the Chrome extension TamperMonkey, or the Firefox extension GreaseMonkey and click Install This Script on the script page. The most popular bodybuilding message boards! As a result, his history of mental health wasn't assessed by MEPS. She could have been honest about her history and told the Recruiter, who would have told MEPS, who would have requested a waiver, and she would have had a chance at a waiver by doing some additional evaluation. 1. Stuck waiting for MEPS to process my info from Military to Military as well as MEPS to MEPS. Processing Stations (MEPS) Your visit to a Military Entrance Processing Station (MEPS) determines your mental aptitude, as well as physical and moral qualifications for enlistment in the Army. You have runs risk that a Soldier could not live with. There are many specific medical conditions that may disqualify you from joining the U.S. Military. 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