#7mm #longrangeshooting #extremelongrange All rights reserved. Going super light though might make the 280 ai another good choice. ABLR in the 28 Nosler. It may not display this or other websites correctly. You must log in or register to reply here. Does a great job on Elk or pig. The additional reach is tempting, but Id pay the price with a 26-inch, fairly heavy barrel. Versitile and with the right twist rate can really launch some High BC pills out there. You are using an out of date browser. Almost through fire forming but ran some pressure ladders with fully formed brass with 180 Berger hybrids, H1000 looks like I'll be at a good max at 3000 fps and R26 3050 fps and I good life. The 180's will work with a 9 nit the bigger bullets will have a decided edge in the wind. It will shoot as fast as a 7mm SAUM and brass is easy to find. And the accuracy with both powders was great as well. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. Clearly the 7mm Rem. Now lets compare this to our other two 7mm candidates. Worth considering. The Nosler loads were developed in Remington cases with Remington primers, and chronographed in a 24 inch barrel. My 28 will not blow the door of the 7 MAX which is why I did not rechamber a 28, I want more accurate load life and no chasing lands around for only a little gain on the very end of trajectory. Straight on shot into chest between the legs at about 50 yds. Mag. But, were I young and tough and starting from scratch, I might be lured into the .28 Nosler. Id suggest a similar plan. This compromise should account for the slower muzzle velocities many rifles produce with factory loads and safe handloads. Thats the 7mm magnum advantage. Vintersalg: Opptil 60 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr Nosler Unprimed Brass 204 Ruger $ 53.82 - $ 208.59 Select options Nosler Unprimed Brass 220 Swift (50) $ 84.99 Add to cart Nosler Unprimed Brass 222 Rem (100) $ 111.28 Add to cart Nosler Unprimed Brass 222 Rem Magnum (250) Unprocessed Rated 5.00 out of 5 $ 215.54 Add to cart Nosler Unprimed Brass 223 Rem $ 50.18 - $ 206.83 Select options Run 230-240 freebore this will work for 180eldm, 184, 190,195 Bergers. I've mostly shot 180 Berger's and its been really accurate. I wanted an every day backpacking Coues rifle that could do sheep, bears, caribou, goats and the occasional backpacking elk hunt if needed. burning 61 grains Reloder 22, 28 Nosler, 3,200 fps from 26 bl., 88-grs. Remington claims a MV of 3175 fps and ME of 3133 ft. lbs. I didnt have any problems finding reloading supplies. 7rm for me. It only makes sense, case with 8gr less capacity out running the bigger case, it's because of pressure, and lots of it. Definitely go 26" on the barrel. You could beat it by loading that same bullet in the 28 Nosler, but youre still facing the barrel burn out issue. 28 has an edge over 7RM on range and power, but as others have stated 7RM already has. 7 saum and 7 rem mag seem like good compromises. I would go 7 LRM if it wasn't for the Hornady brass . Given the same basic form and muzzle velocity (MV), a 180-grain, .284 bullet will fly flatter, drift less, and retain more energy downrange than a 180-grain .308 bullet . Trustpilot. I would go 7 LRM if it wasn't for the Hornady brass . This just-released (October 26, 2022) cartridge has the potential to become the 7mm Remington Magnum of the 21st century. ADG 28 Nosler. 28 nosler is a great choice for the heavies mine is throated for the 195 eols but im gonna try the 190 atips soon. Reloading data published in the fifth edition of the Nosler Reloading Guide for the 7mm Rem. Some are claiming as little as 600-round barrel life for RUM, 1,000 rounds for .28 Nosler, 2,000 for Rem. With RL26 I stuck a case in the chamber @ 3150fps. Either is good. Minuteman. You want 98.2 grains water capacity behind a seated 175-grain bullet? Read Next: Small Calibers for Big Game. In 2001 Remington looked to the old .404 Jeffery case for its ultra-speedy 7mm. Im going to run a tikka action/stock trigger with spring upgrade with a 22in carbon barrel and a light weight scope. Mag. I just did a 7mm build too. Mine is a 26" 1-9 twist non saami 280 ackley. We're doing break in on it tomorrow. More obscure were the 7mm Gibbs and the Norma-loaded 7x61mm Sharpe & Hart in the early 1950s. Like most of our early magnums, this is based on the belted .375 H&H Magnum case. Factory ammo all over, good brass fron Nosler, ADG, etc. Thanks, BnG. The 7 SAUM offers better performance than the 300 Win Mag in a package that is almost as small as the 6.5 Creedmoor. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. A 24" nosler should still outrun a 24" rem mag (all other things equal). 195s topped out @ 2950 w/ N570 using a drop tube to fit powder, that primer pocket was loose after. As the .30-06 Springfield has a .473 case head and uses the .470 +/- bolt face, any cartridges list on the above two bolt face diameter and action length database charts above, that also use the .470 +/- bolt face, and have a COAL of 3.34 or shorter, will work with .30-06 actions. bullets, but not the longest and certainly not such long numbers as Hornadys 180-gr. Hornady 7mm PRC overall length matches that of the 30-06 and 270 Win., so it fits standard length actions. Just have the barrel throated so you can load those big pills way out there, to make room for more powder. Mag., the new .28 Nosler, and the over-the-top 7mm RUM. Instead they seem to be shooting for the ideal balance among MV, tolerable recoil, wind deflection, and precision accuracy. The LRM feeds perfectly, much better than the SAUM. #1 Postby Marty Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:38 am. Of course, this was an overreaction, but at the time millions were convinced the new 7mm was the do-all-end-all of deer/elk/moose and even bear hunting cartridges. Creedmoor Sports $ 116.95 . Also note that some guys are reporting pressure issues at speeds other are reporting work with the 28. . 7mm Rem. Will the 156 take down an elk, sure but I would prefer to have a .284 caliber in a biased opinion. The 175 ELDX load Ive been using is so good no reason to try newer powders or bullets. Another vote for 280ai if building a light weight hunt rig all the horsepower needed close to 7rm but standard action with room for an extra round. I'm currently hunting with a 7rm shooting 168 Berger vlds at 3000 fps. I have a 6.5 saum that is my go to long range coues rifle and it is my favorite rifle but not my first choice for an elk cartridge. I was tired of lugging the heavy, long, and heavy recoiling 30s around, but wanted more punch than my lighter 6.5CM. Im going to run the 7 Saum Im thinking. Mag., 270 Winchester, 30-06 Springfield, and 300 H&H Magnum looked all but washed up. The most common comparison is 28 Nosler vs 300 Win Mag, because they're both popular in North America and are kissing cousins as far as bullet diameter goes. Ryan Pierce is a gunsmith, Piercison Rifles, and he is the first person I saw that was playing with the extra freebore. Dies, brass etc are way easier to find for the PRC. Ballistic twins. Essentially, 7mm PRC rifles will be manufactured with match-grade chambers. make ideal whitetail and mule deer takers with 140-to 160-grain bullets. What was your 28 Nosler load with 180s at 3080? Just FYI before going 7-330NM, check out Long Range Hunting, there is a real long thread on there about the 28 Nosler with the 195 Bergers, just google it. The maximum load for that bullet is 61.5 grains of H4350 powder, which yields a MV of 3133 fps at a chamber pressure of 61,900 psi. After all the smoke and toasted barrels cleared, I came to my own conclusion that the 7-300 win mag was the winner when all aspects are considered. I'm worried bout the need of a 26" barrel for the Nosler, and hoping to get away with a 24" since I'm trying to run an Ultra 7 with it. His bolt-action rifle was chambered for the confusing .275 Rigby. Both cartridges were designed to work through short action rifles. My vote would be 7RM as well. FWIW, the LRM setup that I have on the way was ordered with 16x-class projectiles in mind. Great extraction and wide nodes with many powders. But then none have put it all together quite like Hornadys new 7mm PRC (Precision Rifle Cartridge.) ADG 30 Nosler Brass. It went on to prove itself as a grand all-round big game cartridge, becoming the most popular, most recognized 7mm magnum around the world. A barrel shot out for target competition might remain more than accurate enough for big game hunting. Full Member. It will never be as popular as a 6.5PRC or 28nosler, but it has a purpose. Just picked up a tikka for a donor build for a lightweight 6.5 PRC or 7mm SAUM. bullet have what it takes for hunting anything short of dangerous game. 7mm Rem. The 28 Nosler has a muzzle energy of 3470 ft-lbs, and the 30 Nosler has muzzle energy at 3639 ft-lbs. $89.95. Nothing to call home about, but its solid for any North American game to 7 or 800 yards based on about any standard metric. Well use a 10-inch diameter target zone for computing Maximum Point Blank Range. Fill this brass case with smokeless powder instead of water and, according to some handloading guides, 62.5 grains of Reloder 22 should shove a 175-grain bullet from a 24-inch barrel 2,870 fps. Few, if any, cartridges shoot as flat and hit as hard at distance as the 7mm Weatherby. Howdy. 280AI vs 7 SAUM: two peas in a pod. Since then weve met eight or ten other 7mms, but none has knocked the old 7 Rem Mag from its perch. We ain't raisen no yuppy girls! Buy Now. I think if I was buying a hunting rifle, and just wanted to keep a few high quality boxes of factory ammo around, the I would go 7Rm. And thats part of the reason 7mms are so popular. If you want 7mm magnum performance, youll have to change tires (barrels) now and then. Specifically, the larger diameter .284 bullets used by those 7mm cartridges have about 5% more frontal surface area (also known as cross sectional area) than the .277 bullets used by the 6.8 Western (.0633 vs .0603 square inches). Hey guys, so Ive kind of decided to give one of these a try in my Desert Tech SRS. bullets far, far downrange with minimal wind deflection and maximal accuracy. It is intended for long-range shooting due to its ability to utilize high BC bullets, and is also uniquely suited for hunting large animals such as elk. Nosler shortened the RUM case, gave it a 35-degree shoulder, and shortened the neck to .276. Ive got the same dilemma. He is having adg make brass for him, its head stamped and the neck diameter and length are correct for his design, will still need to be fire formed. You say it's long action. Here are some specifications of interest to those reloading the 7mm SAUM cartridge: bullet diameter .284", maximum COL 2.825", maximum case length 2.035". More significant are the chamber dimensions, which are tighter than those of most traditional, 20th century hunting cartridges. Fr pske salg: Opptil 50 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. But with laser rangefinders one can easily compensate for the slightly greater drop of the 7mm Rem. 7mm Rem Short Action Ultra Magnum Load Data 120 Grain 140 Grain 150 Grain 160 Grain 168 Grain 175 Grain 185 Grain PRIVACY USE ORDER PROCESSING SERVICE & RETURNS Copyright 2023 NOSLER INC. Running 8twist Proof 168s run flat, 5.2mils the other morning at 912y. I'm the same as you. Mag. haha The good part is it's kinda hard to go wrong these days being there are so many great choices. But to really appreciate this, lets run a trajectory chart out to some crazy ranges. Rich is a good guy to talk to on the phone we bsd a bit the other day. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Choices have changed since I made the decision to go with a 7 WSM 10-15 years ago. If you reload ,other than initial brass price, the cost is nearly identical. load hitting 2,970 fps and a 28 Nosler hitting 3211fps with the same bullet. 224 Valkyrie. Actually just today finally found a Redding type s die seton stock. Metallic Reloading Rifle Brass Rifle Brass Rifle brass is made for almost every conceivable cartridge, from 223 brass and 308 brass to older offerings like 30-40 Krag brass and even one of the newest, 6.5 Creedmoor brass. Part of this is due to the .40 inches of freeborn Remington builds into its 7mm RUMs to minimize chamber pressures on ignition. Reloder 33, 7mm RUM 3,150 fps from 26 bl. (Aim for center and bullet will not rise more than 5 inches nor fall more than 5 inches within the MPBR. ADG Brass. Nosler really hampered the performance of that round with the 3.340" COAL length. Running a 7mm like others velocities are really easily to get. I used to shoot 154gr hornady interbonds at 3750 and latest was not to push over 3400. Which one would you choose and why? Heres what a trajectory table looks like for the 180-gr. Again, both seen like great options but I want this to be a hunting rig, as I've got a rifle for shooting steel. In shorter barrels, performance declines dramatically. SAUM can be found on the . Many find them, like the 280ai, to be a great compromise between ballistics and recoil. Recreational and practical applications abound with these .22 caliber handguns. Everyone who knows what they're doing headspaces off of the shoulder anyways, and you should not be doing load development with virgin cases, you want to fire form them first so the belt is a moot point. All the info in that thread made my decision for me. ELD-Match, Noslers 185-gr. YMMV . yea Im leaning more towards the 28 just cause I dont really want to fire form, I know its not the end of the world but just one more step. It may not display this or other websites correctly. And in the chambers of their rifles. Crap I don't remember, I'd have to pull a bullet, I've ran H1000, Retumbo and lots of R33, that load was H1000 but I only have the speed in AB. Qty: Add to cart . Note: A full length article about the 7mm WSM and 7mm Rem. Just cant decide what billets and powder to run. You must log in or register to reply here. Unless you are shooting the 180's at long range, the 7 Rem is enough gun. Before this barrel I had a 7 SAUM and I wasn't happy with how it fed from the DTA magazines. Mag., the new .28 Nosler, and the over-the-top 7mm RUMa shoot-off to find the best, By My thinking was that good ol' 7mm RM. bullet wins the wind deflection category. performance without stepping up to a full magnum length cartridge and rifle action was Noslers goal. You are using an out of date browser. The only advantage I'd see with the SAUM is using a short action. Nosler told me their bonded bullet is designed to retain 70%, same as the partition. By 1,000 yards the PRC has nearly a 2-foot drop advantage and 14-inch windage advantage. JavaScript is disabled. Meanwhile, over in Africa a Scottish commercial ivory hunter named Bell was making the little 7x57mm famous as a BIG big game round by dropping some 800 elephants with it. As for the 7 Rem Mag vs. the 7 PRC, the trajectory data indicates there is no appreciable difference out to 400 yards and not a heck of a lot more at 500 yards, so most hunters wont realize a major advantage with the PRC version. Going to a 28-inch barrel provides more volume for burning those big doses of slow-burning powder, adding 50 to perhaps 100 fps to 26-inch barrel velocities. You obviously reload so that may not be an issue. Like you said though, it's pretty tough to go wrong. ADG 300 PRC Brass. Then Remington blew the doors wide open with their new 7mm magnum chambered in their equally new and affordable M700 rifles. Have a 6.5 PRC and currently building a 7 SAUM. SAUM shows that 56.0 grains of IMR 4350 powder will drive their 140 grain bullets to a MV of 2943 fps, and 60.0 grains of IMR 4350 is good for a MV of 3146 fps. Clear winner. But if your wanting the long action anyway, I'd go with the 280ai. But they didnt shorten anything. I agree mud, but where does the 284 shehane fall compared to the above cartridges? Has 260 rounds on it so its fully sped up. Arbeidstid: 08.00-16.00mandag til fredagVi vil svare deg innen 48-72 timer. Why not back the 28 off and run h1000 or retumbo and cruise along at the same velocity? That's what I would do unless you have to have something much faster. Bullet size is another one of the other important differences between the 28 Nosler vs 300 Win Mag. Indeed, over the years my 7mms have handled this stuff. I also use and like my .284 Win on a long action. I also kicked around the idea of 7max, but can always go that route later. But you pay the price in recoil and that 26-inch barrel. The first question you have to ask when designing a new cartridge is, "WHY?" The 7LRM (Long Range Magnum) is a non-belted case that has the same overall length as the 7mm Rem Mag with a standard magnum case head. Never saw the need for the added horse power of the 7 STW so I sold it and stayed with the 7 mm Rem Mag. Just to add another fly in the ointment, but another 7mm to consider, is the 7mm Blaser Mag. I have hunted with a 7mm Rem Mag and a 7mmSTW. Newer calibers tend to fade quickly these days. ADG 300 . JavaScript is disabled. The Hodgdon technicians used Winchester cases and primers to develop their loads, and they were chronographed in a 24 inch barrel. All Rights Reserved. 28 nosler is a great case, barrel burner, but if you're looking for say 3000fps w/ 195 at lower pressure, use H1000 or Retumbo, adg/gunwerks brass, and the brass will last you forever, take care the barrel and it may go 1000 rounds. You must log in or register to reply here. The .308 just has to be quite a bit heavier. You see a 7mag throated with 250 freebore and adg brass can do all of this. The 28 is not going to be but about 25-50 FPS faster and it makes little difference. fire forming and case prep amounts to chamfer, add primer, powder and bullet to ADG 7 MAX brass and pull the trigger. Som en stor omfattende nettbutikk er hjemsol forpliktet til hjelpe deg med skape et stt liv med vre utskte produkter. Note: A full length article about the 7mm WSM and 7mm Rem. Arbeidstid: 08.00-16.00mandag til fredagVi vil svare deg innen 48-72 timer. Mine has a 30 Rock Creek. The difference might surprise you. Either way a shorter fat case will be better With a shorter barrel. ADG 6.5 SAUM Brass. The completed case holds 90 grains of water with our 175-grain boattail spire point bullet seated. ammo. Full Member. Thats fast enough to handle most 175-gr. https://westtexordnance.com/7mm-300-norma-improved/, https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/28-nosler-195-berger-re33-testing.159270/, Desert Tech SRS A2 Covert FDE w/ conversions, Desert Tech SRS A1 FDE RH 6.5x47L - Parted Out. Following since I want to do the exact same thing. 7mm SAUM Rechamber/Barrel Life. I have both chambered up on the same rifle, the 28 is about cooked so spun up a 7 MAX and maybe in a month I'll get time to pull the trigger more on it, fire forming and case prep amounts to chamfer, add primer, powder and bullet to ADG 7 MAX brass and pull the trigger. and exactly the same claim is made for the 7mm WSM. The 7mm has a longer barrel and is heavier. Buy Now. &mm PRC. I feel I could easily shoot 180s at the same speed, and the 190s close to it. Considering the production by Hornady of 6.5 GAP 4S cases, the next logical step appeared to be ammunition coming off the line in Grand Island, Nebraska. Creedmoor Sports $ 116.95 . The 7mm PRC in center is the same overall length as the 7mm Rem Mag and achieves the same muzzle velocities, but does so in a fatter case with no belt. The shot prior a half grain less powder had minimal pressure signs. Consider that already own a 270 Win with a 22" barrel. Like I said, I'm biased for the 7RM. 180-gr. Good luck in your search, hope youll be as happy as I am with my results. ( They are sitting on the shelf waiting , though.) Using new brass, like Lapua brass, when reloading allows you complete control over the finished cartridge. with either the Berger 215- or 230-grain Hybrid and push them at maximum pressures. Nosler AccuBond Long Range. Trustpilot. So how do you choose among these three? Brass 1 - 12 of 73 Products Sort By Position 220 Swift Premium Brass (50ct) $108.95 6.5mm PRC Bulk Unprepped Brass (100ct) Out of stock $135.49 6.5mm PRC Premium Brass (50ct) Out of stock $118.95 27 Nosler Premium Brass (25ct) The 7mm Precision Rifle Cartridge is a long-action centerfire rifle cartridge designed to shoot 180 grain bullets at 2,950 fps. Still, recoil is lower and ammo/components are cheaper and easier to find. Creedmoor Sports $ 120.95 . Engineers made three modifications that ensured popularity: they shortened the case to fit standard-length actions. In 1962 the 7mm Rem. . And it will likely penetrate farther because more of its mass rides in the long shank behind its nose. First, notice that kinetic energy remains above the elk killing minimum of 1,500 ft-lbs at 700 yards. This calls for a light rifle. Because the 7mm RM is a familiar benchmark, lets establish some basic performance numbers in an 8 pound rifle with 24-inch barrel spitting a representative spire point, boat tail, 175-grain hunting bullet, B.C. Bonus benefits with the 7mm Rem. Trustpilot. Pros, cons of both and reasons why. Improving 7mm Rem. Alabusa Learning. 6.5 PRC or .28 Nosler. Muzzle energy means the energy of the bullet at the time of leaving the gun. For really light and a short action if you reload 7 saum. I have both the 300 and 7mm SAUM, the 300 is on a model 7 action and the 7mm a standard 700SA. At SAAMI specs you really hinder the performance, need a little extra freebore to seat the bullets out further. Almost through fire forming but ran some pressure ladders with fully formed brass with 180 Berger hybrids, H1000 looks like I'll be at a good max at 3000 fps and R26 3050 fps and I good life. That was the 7x57mm re-branded for the non-metric British Rigby rifle. $120.95. 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