It would gross me out to have someone trying to act like a parent. So this guy is trying everything he can to fix the LWbut since depression makes people act against their best interests, the boyfriend doesnt trust said LW to deal with this on their own. The idea of setting up a should about something like food or exercise for her and expecting her to abide by it sounds abhorrent. The point is, I actively try to be a better partner and to listen to what he wants, and not just do to him what I think he needs. This is a guy who hasnt figured out that nagging doesnt work despite all kinds of evidence to the contrary. One of the signs your boyfriend has stopped making an effort is that your relationship has become one-sided, efforts are now one-sided. My mother used to literally scream at me if she saw my hand go anywhere near my head, my friends used to threaten to not speak to me if I cut myself, but no pressure! Anger is about taking, not giving. Even after I told him I wasnt interested in doing that, hed bring it up ad naseum. Your bf is trying to make you break up with him. Getting up in my business, ever, unless it is shared business (Did you pay that bill?) or I have specifically asked him to (and I quit doing this b/c he doesnt really like it, its one more damn thing on his to-do list basically.) I think you can tell dude that the things he is doing are not helping and that your therapist agrees with you (assuming therapist does and I think therapist is your number one go to about this) and also give him things he *can* do to help you when you are feeling down. You know, thatd taste better if you gave it 15 seconds in the microwave., Ive asked him to stop trying to get me to change, that you cant change other people, but he refuses to accept that, to the point that he says its the stupidest thing hes ever heard. Not okay. Weve broken up now and I think its safe to say were both much, much happier. And not, like, a GOOD parent, either. If he reacts poorly, or if LW feels unable to give advice because he claims that means theyre unsupportive (an only-to-real double standard), then that is key information and likely points to the impending doom of the relationship. But that doesnt sound like whats happening here. I'd always known that my boyfriend was a bit insecure due to his previous partners cheating on him, but I never realized how often I would text him during the day to let him know who I was with, what I was doing, where I was, and other small things. Boyfriend, I have my therapist for coaching & helping me develop. God, Im such a pathetic LOSER! And cue the tears and stress eating and whatever other bad depression habits you thought youd gotten under control. Sometimes a guy will stop making an effort because he feels insecure or dealing with issues in his personal, work, or family life. Its ok to say hey, just keeping my head above water is all Im capable of at the moment, no challenges for me right now.. This is part of why we dont have a good relationship). There were plenty of other things wrong with our relationship, but I was super-duper in love with him except that now I realize the person I ACTUALLY liked, loved, and respected was the imaginary version of him that lived in my head. Dear LW, 3) when I said, I walked for twenty minutes today! How much cleaning does HE do? Its always so much easier to see things from an objective perspective when one is looking in from the outside. But really nothing in that letter sounds like a happy, healthy time. Im going to read it again as soon Im done with this comment. Focusing on changing someone allows wounds to fester. I appreciate that you care about me, but Im good, so lets change the topic.. Controlling guys will often immediately come on strong, which can be very flattering. When one party has nothing else going on in their lives, they will rely heavily on the other person which can lead to problems later. My partner and I love the ideas of self improvement, but as with most folks, we often talk more about it than do it. In some cases, he may have been at the point where it was becoming too serious for him. Then willingly, because I knew tea came in a lot of flavors. I like this script because it avoids the teacher/student roles and makes exercise and cleaning and healthy eating something for EVERYONE. You know your boyfriend and your own situation better than we do, so I trust you to figure out who and what you are dealing with and take steps to care for yourself. This is poor form, and Boyfriend really needs to wake up and smell the coffee that THINGS ARE MORE OKAY NOW, BACK THE FUCK OFF, YOURE NOT NEEDED. People who get controlling about appearance are the pits. The awful thing is that our families groom us to be victims of whatever BS is their flavour of abuse, and then there we are, pre-groomed for whatever arseholes show up to take advantage. Try and find the root cause of why your partner is taking it 2. The Teaser Trailer For Daisy Jones & The Six Just DroppedHeres Everything We Know So Far, Signs You Lack Self-Love (And How To Develop It), The Best Relationship Advice No One Ever Told You, 6 Things To Stop Doing If You Want To Find Love. Many sympathies. Like the Captain said, if it helps you have the conversation, totally go for it. Theres a lot of power in taking full ownership of the decision to take more autonomy over your choices. When your partner stops maintaining your relationship, that spark can easily die out as dissatisfaction and resentment builds up." Here are seven gestures that your partner may stop doing if your. Youre a real person. He used to love visiting your family, friends and all the places you like going to. She will ask me to do things like remove sharp objects from her living space, check in to make sure shes eating, wake her up in the morning when shes unlikely to get up on her own, phone her psychiatrist to give info/updates about how shes doing, and so on. How can I respond when he gets mad at me for not being good enough? Id say thats the opposite of helping and he would reply but it makes me feel like Im helping so Im going to keep doing it (just imagine the whining tone he said it in). etc.). Do yourself a favor. Hell, take steps to meet some new people anyway. They threaten to break up with you all the time. Yeah, the LWs boyfriends words sound like the very worst of my jerkbrains words. Poetry of Nope is my new favourite phrase! So boyfriend needs to read up on stuff about mental health issues PRONTO. It took me over 12 years to learn that. So, to me, a partner who listens and trusts you about your health and is willing to accept hardships when you have problems is a safety issue. If LW says If youve ever had that feeling of emptiness in the pit of your stomach, when you realize your boyfriend stopped making an effort to make things work with you, this article is for you. Take a step back, and allow the other person to show you what they want. He picked being my boyfriend and shut the hell up when we were in the gym. Have trouble concentrating to work? Your Mileage May Vary. He wanted to call the shots. Maybe Im coming off as too harsh, and if I am I apologize. So many hugs to you. Trouble concentrating. Then, at the end of any date, I got this huge guilt trip if I didnt show gratitude. That can be so helpful. He is allowed to disagree with you and to hold a different view, but to shut down your view like that is a red flag. The goalposts will keep moving. I did not fail. When things are at their worst, do you still make each other laugh, do you still turn to each other and see each other as someone with much to offer, do you still treat each other with affection and find pleasure in each others company? Thank-you for this comment. I agree. Comfort is a vital part of challenging yourself. There are certainly some grave warning signs here the passive aggression being one of them; its so easy to let someone know how little you mean to them by ignoring them in the day to day, withdrawing affection and communication. LW, whatever you chose to do today is enough. The author begins by explaining that he is currently dating a woman who he's been with for some time. Youll be happier and lighter without the constant criticism and monitoring, and hell be happier with someone who has the qualities he wants in his new, improved partner (or hell find a willing victim for Coach Body Police: Infinity Annoying Steps To the New You!). Thank you for the link. Run. I dont think that his intent upset or control you but a desire for you to do better born from a internal selfishness that it would make his life better or easier. Thank you your reading of his intent is, I think, spot-on! I still (as of right now) have hair pulling issues, and a few days ago i mangled a zit on my forehead, but it doesnt come with that looped soundtrack of badbadbadbadbad means if I so it I dont feel guilty and ashamed, which means I dont do do it more, to punish myself for being a fuckup, because now I know Im not. You are worth loving for who you are, and you are worth loving the way you want to be loved. Walking or biking dont have those painful associations for me and are thus easier on me mentally. (and having dated somebody like LWs partner in the past when I was severely depressive I really kind of just want to SHOOT HIM.). Let your thoughts sit while your jealousy simmers down a little bit. If he does answer, sometimes it takes a while unlike before where there were never more than two rings on the line before he picked up now it can take five or six rings! You cant change other people, and any coaching or motivating has to be accomplished with the full participation and consent of the coached. Something that I tried with my own Helper from several years ago I took him with me to a therapist appointment. Knowing why he stopped making an effort will help you in making the right decision. LW, Im so sorry youre dealing with this. Sometimes you just have to watch somebody else hurting and not be able to do anything about it. LW, I agree with a lot of the commentators that this may be an irredeemable situation, but it may help to tell your boyfriend what he can do to help. I dont know your boyfriend, but in my case, I had to say to my fianc outright that I already have a therapist who is doing her job just fine, and this was even harder for him, because part of his job involves providing therapy to students on the autism spectrum. Thats why Ive always resisted the exercising with a boyfriend thing. This is another clue that the boyfriend isnt all that invested in the LWs progress toward real, positive change. Hit the gym. This is not a democracy. Anyway, enough about me. One cannot Straw Vulcan of Superior Reasoning their way into ones partner conforming exactly to ones own standards both internally and externally. Once the facts are straight we can deal with the issue. If I have to cook a decent meal for the toddler, may as well cook for two at once, right? However, intent isnt magic and the effect of his actions do cause you harm. Treats are a vital part of a healthy diet. What good is texting someone if youre not really building any kind of connection with them or meeting up in person to have real conversations about something other than how their day was or what they had for lunch? That said, hes gotten very good about saying, OK, I can take over X now, please stop when X can be things like make sure I take my meds, make sure I eat, make sure I fill my pill pack, etc. I dont even have to duly note your concern or take that under advisement. 1. Maybe this will be a huge relief and weight of your boyfriends shoulders once he knows he doesnt have to be responsible for your wellbeing. I dont think it really matters whether LWs boyfriend is doing this to try to make her non-depressed, thin or both; hes behaving in a way thats controlling and unhelpful, whatever his reasons. Nine times out of ten, a person who self-describes as logical or rational ironically does not understand this, and a much better self-description would be someone so egotistical that I think my subjective preferences should be treated as laws of the universe especially by my girlfriend.. but its not like, oh man, now that I exercise I never feel sad! avert! If this IS the case, he does mean well, but hes going about things all wrong. We have no investment in that relationship, we dont feel the love they share. And celebrate a little. Logic and reason are critical thinking tools. He likes the you in his head that he wants to shape you into being. I did not in fact give up he left me. And you dont need to accept this as appropriate treatment. Because he loves you and wants to see you shine for your own sake? Someone struggling is not an automatic invitation to step in and run their lives for them. This is a guy who hasnt figured out how to be kind and supportive in even the most basic ways. And I know it takes me less effort to make myself presentable for people coming over to visit me, than it does to get out of the house. He may feel like criticizing you is the only way to help. Stop the "blame game" and examine your part in disputes or conflict. Then all of a sudden he stopped calling and you're not hearing from him at all. I have learned to back way off, although he tends to not to interact much at his worst and I have a hard time dealing with that. Stop Trying to Fix Your Partner's Feelings Kyle Benson Instead of trying to change or fix the feelings of the person you love, focus on connecting with them. This doesnt sound like theyre frustrated, and it doesnt sound like theyre experiencing personal distress. You're not sure what it is that might be going on, then give him space and don't contact him for a little while. Reasonable. Its more complicated when mental illness is involved, especially when youre legitimately working on improving yourself everything about yourself (and your relationships) feels like something you can work hard and improve, and if it doesnt happen it feels like a personal failing. In any case what was most helpful to me when I was trying to decide what to do about my then bf monitoring my exercise and how I acted and what I wore, was look at those things and all the other things we did together (which by that point was not much) and ask if this person seemed to like me. Part of the reason my boyfriend and I managed to get through it (and got through it with a stronger relationship than I have with my mother) is the lack of picking and nagging. Maybe I can step on fewer landmines by keeping it in mind. Encouragement. Beloved Human gets it now, and if I send a text saying, X happened, and Im flailing. For the rest of us, it reinforces the jerkbrains message. I think doing the opposite of that can also be helpful. What your boyfriend is doing -whether he means to or not is *exactly* the issue that you are going to therapy to deal with. The human incarnation of depression is just what I was thinking. Those things are part of who we are, and we accept that in each other. He is a member of your team and not your coach. He wont be straightforward in saying no because by using that word he doesnt have to face any consequences for his direct refusal. ), other peoples feelings are not an argument I can have theyre an axiom, or a postulate, or a piece of evidence I have inferred but theyre not a fucking argument. When he would not go to counseling with me, I went by myself. Theres a bigamist in my family tree he walked out on one family, changed his name and got married again. is toxic and controlling, and this: Ive asked him to stop trying to get me to change, that you cant change other people, but he refuses to accept that, to the point that he says its the stupidest thing hes ever heard., It makes me feel like nothing I do will ever be good enough, that he will always focus on what Im not doing instead of what I am trying to do. A lot of men dont know what constitutes looking good, sure, but most at least know a clean shirt and something other than cotton or jersey material is the way to go. Hello, me from the past! When your boyfriend stops making an effort, there may be a good reason behind it. Coaches and therapists and teachers also operate with professional distance and ethics that dont mix with romance. Hlepy is a word I learned over at Making Light. Thats a complicated and unpleasant thing to wrestle with every time you step onto an elliptical. In hindsight a lot of stuff was terrible and controlling but because I was invested beilived what he said until there was no trust left at all and I had utterly tried everything to get him to listen. During that time, I had a b/f who sounds a lot like your b/f he knew that if only I would do X, Y, Z and Q things that he specifically told me to do in the way and with the frequency that he specifically dictated, Id feel so much better! Not that I care much about LWs BF, but she does. Then, at the end of any date, I got this huge guilt trip if I didnt show gratitude. We help each other a ton: I carry the groceries and he holds me and listens when I need it. That's the last thing you should do. The sex may not dwindle, but the cuddling will. I focus on how each time he does so, its a good thing he is doing, and I am proud of him for it. Oh god, my parents did that toothey made fun of my (snack) food choices all the time, which was severely hypocritical as they were the ones who taught me that that behavior was absolutely not okay (when directed towards an adult). But in my mind, that state of challenge turns into a nightmare if thats ALL youre doing. Is there anything you need to bring up?" THIS. So I dont get to do this as well as I used to when husband is away. Despite all this he was in many ways not a bad guy. Sounds like my Dad. He wants me to exercise more, eat healthier, help out more with the cleaning, and take better care of myself. You are healing, why shouldnt your home and your relationship be a place you can feel comfortable? Hmm, this one is more what others have done for me. I hope others have advice too. 15 Signs He Has Stopped Making an Effort If you are experiencing some or all of the following signs, it could be that your boyfriend has stopped making an effort: 1. 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