. I don't think they get it. How many women out there would buy such a product?Yeah I'd say keep it. However, if he were to claim that he owned the Apple stock for more that one month, he's saying that he purchased 1,000 shares of a stock whose value ranged between $300 and $600 per share over the three years that he's been in business. ft. $725,000. Gag gag gag!!!! Also buy monthly for your "personal assistant" LOL Communikate, around $35 or $40. Thank you for this blog. Thats it. Amway folks really don't sell all that much product. And thats why Amway products are so fucking expensive. God bless everyone! this is halarious. Instead it always " I am involved with a (fill in the blank) company. To my horror it was a Fu&^%&ing AMWAY rally. business. And yeah, it was weird and cult like "Tonight we get to watch Dave give the Plan!" It may only be shared or re-used under licence. i say forget chasing or hating the dream and just make some extra money. They don't disclose all the hidden costs to you. We've gone Diamond. Sheep.Decency? ;) *ShakingMyHead*Mitchellinspiration.wwdb.bizFeel free to e-mail me with any assumptions and doubts about being an IBO, i would be happy to shatter your falsified assumptions. We know some, but not many. I look back and think my mom was a genius for resisting Amway the way she didshe never gave in!! If you have capital to build a business then do so help the economy and build something of your own. They're in the past. No one is guaranteed 6 figure income just because they join. Lastly, everyone just needs to settle down. That's the place Ambots use to stash all the overpriced Amway shit they're stockpiling. I showed up an hour late and I was shocked to find out that my friend sucked me into an Amway meeting like a blind vortex. They were brought up in some kind of religious households so they're already greedy. The rest they got from selling business tools (supposedly at cost; that is certainly what they told us). Who is now amway diamon and who is babesor. 2012. i am hiting 6% level.very fast i want to go diamond Of course not because people in Amway don't believe anything unless someone else in Amway says it whether or not it's true, Amway ambots parrot the Amspeak from these assholes.I've done enough research minimal as it may be that I have a good idea what will happen to a person if they jump onto the subway lines that I don't have to experience it firsthand and can draw on someone else's experience that they got themself electrocuted to death. Hope you all have much success in life. But to hell with all that. heard all the "Motivational speeches". With a 99% failure rate no one who isn't brainwashed and have looked into the math of this "opportunity" could possibly call it a solution to anything other than further enriching a tiny portion of folks at the top of the pyramid. FUCK OFF!!! 'We're buying a house in the Bayou Club. Amway has been great to me and my family. Try scanning another product. I don't remember any Diamonds working outside jobs but they sure had to hustle their asses working the Amway scam and bullying their downline to buy more buy more! Trump has lost more money than most of us will ever see. Yeah he mentioned dreams multiple times and asked me about what mine is and said his team can help me achieve that, unbelievable. Me again. It takes a special kind of person to be able to deal with an IBO for a spouse because any form of argument against their god will be ruthlessly destroyed. The company itself is not the major problem, it is the sales organizations. OHHHHHHHHH I HATE those FUCKING Functions. You have focused so much on the WHAT that you totally looked over the WHY. See just a few of the former Amway diamonds who have left the business. The company simply doesn't make that kind of margin on its products nor is there that much product being distributed. I have been with amway for only a month now, but this has been the most exciting time because my husband and I are preparing to reach diamond status in record time. I can't believe my associates and I came to america illegally and in a few years made a fortune, wow you white people are cocky and just suck at business marketing. Yeah look amway pays me a solid check every year but with that check I became the proud owner of 4 McDonald's franchises, 2 Dennys Dinners, I own 1 Holiday Inn, 5 Gas Stations, and I own 1k shares of Apple, Cerner, Manchester United, and MicroSoft yeah but sure I'm an "amway lying cheat", I try to help people but they're to negative, lazy, with no ambition, but why care about people like you I'm rich and im not even legal, and I don't care if I get deported, ill just get to live in my Columbian Mansion, don't join any of those white people groups join equipo vision (team vision) my name's Theo again have a happy miserable life, working while im 33 and retired! Either way Darnell showed up here spouting off lies and bullshit, undoubtedly duplicating what he's heard from the fucking lying assholes in his Amway upline. There are over 10,000 comments left on this blog over the years. They can't afford to or else it means going back to working a job as many have found out. I feel almost certain that it is a pyramid scheme that has only existed through a legal loophole (selling products)A guy i know is currently trying to get me to join Amway.. now my question is why these people are so focused on gaining more downlines when it seems they could make good profit just by selling products at markup. Talk it over with this person. We have been "in the business" now for some 18 yrs, and have been @ the Direct/Platinum or above level for 17 of those yrs. Bitterness will eat you up. As for Warren Buffett and Donald Trump: Warren Buffett does in fact own an MLM (let's call it what it is) but if you look into it, it is run much different from the one we are discussing, and he really isn't directly involved with it. No that's proof that news sources in 3rd world countries haven't yet announced the results of the 2008 Presidential election. I'm sure our upline Diamond has a huge hole in his income these past few months after Amway fired our sack of shit Platinum. What if my dreams aren't as selfish and petty as the typical Ambot dream? you haven't lost hope. Nothing about it is a scam. Exactly as you mentioned. Anonymous - apparently life experience from people who lived through the Amway hell isn't good enough in person actually lived through it research. Holy fuck are you ever a bad little Ambot! I am texting you "live" from this bull shit praise meeting that makes me want to VOMIT. World Wide Dream Builders (WWDB) is the largest and most successful Amway Motivational Organization. The system is unable to load the contents of this page. The things I learned from Amway I have always used in my everyday life. An Amway Diamond according to Amways literature is in the ballpark as our income. We just want to help people not go through the hell we went through. Anonymous - Amway ambots are brainwashed not to believe anything that doesn't come from the lying mouth of an Amway cult leader. Depends where they are on the get a bigger piece of pie plan. The first sentence of this post says the same thing as the small print of the Amway literature,150k. Neither are Emeralds, Platinums or any IBO who LOVES Amway and LOVES their upline. And nowhere is that more true than in Amway! (later shortened to Amway) so they could expand the product line to include regular household items. "It must cost them a FORTUNE to have them recorded and copied." You never just "invite" someone for coffee. Then you get dumb fucks like white afro ambot who does a search online to find out how much money Diamonds make and lands on this post. According to Amway literature Amway Diamonds make around $150,000 a year. This blog mainly exists to curse out my former upline, aka the cult leaders, and to let everyone know what kind of idiots I had to put up with. They became broke and our family vacations were no longer vacations but these stupid "Functions". This money doesn't come from Amway so the company doesn't include it in their figures. Great Post, Anonymous. Rip off! And this is after quite a lot of truly hard work. It is now, of course, but then (if memory serves me right) it had more to do with the year 2000 than the name Amway. I remember looking at the tapes, which cost $5-6. Some of the Amway cult leaders are invested in this company.I forgot to warn they'll ask about your dreams. Once Ambots are brainwashed they don't care about their friends or family anymore except for how much money then can make off them.So your friend said to you - I know a really sharp businessman who has some great ideas. Battling with the fucking assholes in the Amway upline who have brainwashed our husbands into misplaced love and worship at the Amway upline instead of at our families. Its being ripped off by the scam.Yeah I remember the Amway cult leaders preaching over and over to show the plan. as in once a "diamond," always a? Finally, the coveted diamond pin. Of course, like any brainwashed Ambot, this guy just sees the "insults" and "foul language" and totally skips over the TONS of articles and posts going into great detail of WHY Amway is a losing "opportunity", a mathematical dead-end pyramid where only less than 1% of people make any kind of profit, and which is why it is based on "dreams" and not reality. It is run by Criminals who never hesitate to knowingly STEAL from poor "saps," like me.I found a way using Amway to make literal millions of dollars and they STOLE all of it.By the way, they are NOT known to steal from those who are not on to something big. 2nd Anonymous - yeah what the fuck was that gibberish? They retired in 3 years and now live in a giant mansion in Honolulu. And what will you get it you do all these things? Anyone can say "..it had help more people become financially free" without any actual proof or statistics other than that's what your upline told you. Come back after year 3, and 4, and 5, and let's see that fighting spirit. My Wife Mrs Laxmi Singh & I myself building this awesome unique opportunity with the help of our great LOS and world best proven system. I can feel it!". Cause obviously if this didn't work and it was a scam he wouldn't have a Rolls Royce. They are in negative numbers that month. Anonymous - seeing as how this blog is devoted mostly to making the Amway upline look like a bunch of fucking assholes, your opinion might differ. so how & how to do business.i am having very much hope in this It was what I'd believed was success. Closer to $5 is more like it but you can't buy them just by the bar. Amway is a very expensive social club! You have to work for your dreams. DON'T YOU? Anonymous - you'd think after all these decades those Ambots could come up with more original lines! Curious, how many qualified diamonds exist in the US? Hi Anonymous. Yup that pretty much sums up Amway ambots! That's because they are people who might be able to reason and convince their loved ones that the cult leaders are only interested in using them for their money.Good luck with that. Hello Anna, I read this entire page and all its comments and I'd like to share my story. rating for bluenile.com. Where else would you get that working 4 hours a week?recessions happen and effect more than just amway. TheWhiteafroguy - all over this blog I write about our involvement with WWDB aka World Wide Destructive Bastards. I feel for the other unfortunate souls that got hooked into this scam. Like your Amway pipe dream?Haters always hate? A couple years have passed since then and my business has outgrown their "dream" business ten fold and they are still slaving away, loosing friends, creating enemies and trying to recruit people who want to "live the dream." THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME TO DO AMWAY BUISNESS BECAUSE ALL THE HURDLES HAVE BEEN REMOVED WITH REGARD TO THE BUISNESS BUILDING PROCESSS. & Help many peopel to make money. How ironic this comment shows up just as I'm getting ready to spend the day down in Tijuana and I don't have to worry going down or coming back cause I'm not illegal..Diamonds are not reading this blog. I remember qualifying on an incentive to visit Diamond Clark and Diana Broome's house in Loomis, California. I'll bet twice as many are questioning their faith after being involved with some of the unsavory elements in the Sales organizations. As long as they have a steady stream of suckers paying too much money for generic and substandard Amway products they've got no reason to make changes. They're not who you are. Secondly, it says the average income for diamonds is $400k/year, but that the highest paid diamond was over $2.2mil. Absolutely correct! I join this buisness 1 month ago. These are the guys with the lavish lifestyles that few will ever achieve. And because you're a dumb fuck Amway Ambot I have to spell it out for you. Do you stand up at Amway meetings and scream out at the Diamond "Shut the hell up you broke loser!!!!" Numbers do not lie. But the people like you Anna are just the type of people who are negative for your own reasons. Far from it. The only 95% I know of in Amway is that 95% of IBO's quit within 2 years. Mrs Banana apparently did not do well with Amway. The average diamond earns about $150,000, according to Amway. Same income. And I'm talking a low quality chocolate. His house, to make an understatement, was huge. You have to buy books, CD, tickets to Amway meetings. agar aap wo paana chahate ho jo apko mil na saka to wo karna hoga jo apne abhi tak kiya nahi.. ONLY AMWAY CAN MAKE YOU TO HAVE ALL THE HAPPINESSES IN LIFE. My upline has been in it for 2 years and there paying off all of their bills now. They try one company, an when that doesn't work, it's on to the next. Devastator1981 1 yr. ago. If your last name ain't Devos or VanAndel then you don't own an Amway business. If you love Amway and the assholes in your Amway upline so much, boy did you pick the wrong place on the Internet to hang out! Could it be that Diamonds are liars about paying for everything in cash? Its really sad that a manufacturer of good products is quite happy to see its reputation get flushed down the sewer. Juuva honors Don and Nancy Wilson upon surpassing $55 Million in Network Marketing Career Earnings. I've got a friend in a nearby town that I can come over and visit. LOL! . The glimmer of hope still exists. Uh you dumb Amway fuck you want me to talk it over with the person I've just phoned you to complain about it. Keeps Ambots away! I doubt it. Free returns. I'm surprised some assholes in his Amway upline hasn't already counselled with him about the hairstyle choice because that's all those Amway bastards do in night owls is bitch at the ambots about what they drive, what they wear, and their hair style. Be humble, open minded , and loving and God will open doors! Yup they all want to meet for coffee. Posting something that serves no purpose other than to cause fighting.7. The secret to success in Amway is you have to be the most obnoxious fucking asshole around. In other words, a diamond is downline from another diamond. Only the most aggressive liars and scammers make money. They couldnt stop, of course. This varies from country to country, and strategy to strategy! And look you're right Amway doesn't work. First of all Amway/WWDB is not a "get rich quick" scheme. Then U R SILVER. "if i don't get him/her back i will end my life.."What, so you can't even tell if your ex lover is a man or a woman? That's not what it's about. So, Theo took home some fraction of $1.22 million in that time.So how does a fraction of $1.22 million pay for 4 McDonalds franchises, 2 Denny's Diners, 1 Holiday Inn and 5 gas stations? Well, one thing is that mistakes even big embarrassing mistakes are a natural part of the entrepreneur's life. But at the ASCO meetings the downline are praised and lovebombed for simply buying more that month, even if they just shoved the crap in a closet.And if recruitment is the goal and not selling the products to the general public, then Amway is merely a pyramid scheme and with all pyramids only the 1% at the top make money, at the expense of the 99% where they get it from. Its about the only thing taught at Scamway meetings. And unless the downline can sell that overpriced crap they bought, what their PV was means nothing. My diamond makes 1.3 million, and my crown makes 12 million. So, Darnell, is it WWDB? You actually tell them what you want to talk to them about and show them some videos online before having them over. Of course not, the information you are allowed to read is what has been given to you. Over 4000 attended. Both of you have been brainwashed to spout off the bullshit you hear from your Amway cult leaders. The only question is how much emotional and financial damage will Scamway cause before he quits. We'd be happy to debunk your falsified assumptions.-Jerry. This all adds up. Wait till the assholes in his Amway upline find out he was hanging here instead of prospecting unless he's so fucked in the head he thinks this blog is a good place to find prospects! The only ones who retire are the people who own Amway and their heirs. hi this is the great opp.and any body do this. Naming names? So most people male nothing, and actually lose money because they are not taught to retail to 10 customers a month ( ewwwww.) So where is your vile for restaurants, or are you one of those people, who give them your money? Thats where the money is ticket sales. Anna. Anonymous - I'm sorry to hear you're falling for a women inside the Amway cult. Yup they don't say it's Amway. So yeah be prepared for quite a ride because it's far from being easy living with an IBO.Osu. Amway Ambots love to say negative no matter how much they preach about never saying negative. That's good news for the owners of Amway but how does that affect their lowly paid commissioned salespeople.Ambots also show up here claiming that Amway has made more millionaires than Microsoft or Google of wherever but so far no one's shown up with a list of the millionaires for comparison. You support restaurants don't you? Word on the street is in a year and with their current business they will be founders Diamonds next year this time. At least I'm not a fucking lying scamming Amway asshole flogging overpriced shitty products and that's not something you can say about yourself. Nobody is coming into any of Theo's four McDonalds franchises to buy a dream (or motivational CD about how you too can own a McDonalds). i love to do this business. That of course includes many couples, but it means at that point in time, with sales of around $8 billion, there was clearly more than 2000 qualifying Diamonds. They do sell a lot of seminars and CDs though! Hehehe,I am about to go Diamond in only 3 years of hard work and dedication.How much I Love when skepticals turn out to be wrong :)Du, nu nu nu, nu nu, nu nu,Cant touch me. *. If you qualify for Diamond Select, you will be treated to an extended trip with exclusive activities and VIP pampering, plus more time to connect, collaborate and relax with fellow business leaders. Only those at the top make money off of the 99% of those below them. I'm Kyle. (@)(@)(@)(@) zooom zoom zoom!!!! That year t. They joined Amway in 1973 and went Diamond in 1979. Yeah that'll get me somewhere. This is gross. The "prosperity Gospel" is a truly sick idea, and completely alien to genuine Christianity. a strategy ? If these two men had the blind faith that you and the millions or other sheep around the world do, wouldn't they just sign up in the same fashion you did? You can find stories online of people spending $192,000 to "make" $30,000 (shit, we think there are actual cults with a higher rate of return). Live from an Amway meeting! So, if you figure if Amway did half the revenue of Alticor, that would only financially support 361 diamondships (worldwide). i have joined amway business in the month of february These MLM scams are all the same.Amway's got no motivation to get rid of the tool scam. . 150k is not a bad income. Nonsense. They want a product. Enjoy laid-back luxury on Oahu's sunny western coast in Ko Olina. I'm glad the people who work for us don't have that attitude. Best to talk to someone local in your upline and ask them. I think in Merchants of Deception, or maybe just by general knowledge, those tapes cost 50 cents to produce so there's lot of money to be made by selling them for $5+ to ambots. Like you didn't have a better way to spend a Friday night! Amway now has 17,000+ employees and operates in over 100 countries and territories throughout the world including Canada, China, India, Japan, and Thailand. A nice profit when you don't have bookshop overheads to meet. 95% quit (Amway's figures) within 2 years of signing up. Trump is really good at making money for himself so, he started his own MLM and placed himself at the top. The same way that none of the money my down line spend goes to me. But I researched this one a lot, and it seems very solid. Amway makes their money on selling startup kits and personal use of products by distributors. 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