I hadn’t given this much thought but it is something we should all think about and be aware of. There’s a worship of nation, flag and anthem that God has never condoned. My in-laws are all Jehovah’s Witnesses, most of them did not stand for the Pledge of Allegiance either. I can understand (a little) your aversion to pledging to the flag or singing the national anthem. It’s use by the Finnish Air Force well pre-dated Nazi Germany; they did remove it from their planes and most other locations after WWII, but retained it’s use on the flags for the training units. As a Jehovah Witness I always stand up out of respect. Last, the Pledge of Allegiance is exactly that – a pledge, nothing more. I will continue to pledge allegiance to the American flag, and I have full confidence that God does not see this as me worshiping the flag or my country in any way. I am grateful that conservative religions in the US like the amish, quakers and seventh day Adventists, have kept true to their convictions and religion even in an environment where the entire nation is crazed in bloodthirsty ‘patriotism’. Stop getting caught up YOUR feelings. Agreed with Karen. “Indivisible” is in response to the South’s succession from the U.S. Murdering the Natives? Jehovah Witnesses don’t stand it. I love it! Jesus (Matthew 22:35-38): You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, & with all your mind.” It doesn’t say to worship the flag & country as a go-between or proxy. Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t believe in idolizing things such as flags and songs; their beliefs put God first and nothing comes before. As to the being referred to these days as “God,” he/she/it isn’t a Christian. Or did GOD loved us and forgave us for our sins? I believe it’s more out of respect , not “worship” that allegiance is pledged. Ivan Miranda, Calumet College of St. Joseph A Flag Song is sung. Don, the people here who say their allegiance is to God are not from other countries, it’s seems they’ve spent their lives in America. Let what you say be simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything more than this comes from evil. You will note that our politicians and military all swear or affirm to uphold the constitution, not any individual person; and the principles laid down in the constitution provide for dissenters as well as adherents to its ideals. What about the natives savagely murdering and enslaving each other for hundreds of years and then those who immigrated here? “Thou Shalt Have no other gods before me… for I, the Lord thy God am a jealous god.”. I wish more people today looked at it that way. When Jesus said, love your enemies, He meant for you to love them, not kill them or put them in jail…Jesus said, its being said before, love your friends, and hate your enemies…Under the law of the old covenant, it was an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth, and life for life…And the nation of Israel went to war to kill GODS enemies, but only if Israel was keeping the law of GOD…But when Israel did not keep the law, and they went to war, GOD was not with them…In the new covenant, we are not under the works of the law, but under grace…Jesus said, he who is without sin, cast the first stone…No one was able to cast the first stone, because nobody was keeping the law of the old covenant…And no nation has the right to cast the first stone at their enemies, because no one is keeping the law of the old covenant…Jesus said, nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom…And those who live by the sword, shall die by the sword…When Jesus heard that Pilate or a Governor was sacrificing humans with fire, Jesus said, except you repent, you shall all likewise perish…Those who believe in the words of Jesus, they can love their enemies, by not killing them, by not putting them in jail, and by feeding them…As it is written; vengeance is mine, I will repay them, says the Lord…Jesus and His disciples loved their enemies, when they laid down their life…Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do Luke 23:34…Lord, do not charge them for this sin Acts 7:60…When we were the enemies of GOD, did GOD kill us? I had to sign a loyalty oath to the United States to receive financial aid, and I refused. The kingdom we live in, we pledge our allegiance to God, not the flag.”eval(ez_write_tag([[300,250],'amishamerica_com-box-3','ezslot_0',126,'0','0'])); That’s a quote from an Amishman in the PBS film “The Amish”.eval(ez_write_tag([[468,60],'amishamerica_com-medrectangle-3','ezslot_8',127,'0','0'])); This struck me as I’ve never really thought about it in those terms. The Pledge itself has morphed in form over time. That said, I am not particularly focusing on tearing down the USA. seven . Hannah Carr Is this what the “land of the free” looks like? To me the pledge of allegiance is a ‘civic religion’ and worse than that, because while we have freedom of religion we have no choice on whether or not to pledge allegiance without being refused benefits and respect and certain job positions. That gesture of course didn’t have the same connotations in the early 20th-century. I will share it tomorrow, hopefully after I hear from you. I do not know if any other state has this provision. I have always viewed saying the pledge, or singing the national anthem, as affirming my belief in the constitution of the United States and the principles it establishes. Office : (219) 473-4322 I never knew it had pre-Nazi origins.

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